Looks as though they are going for size over ability with Ashworth and Greenwood, unless Watson can get the best out of them that other coaches couldn't.
I can hold Greenwood in higher regards now he’s left Wigan.
He turned out to be an awful signing for them, hopefully he can do well at Hudds and fulfill some of the potential he showed in his early years at Saints.
I don't expect Wigan minded too much about Greenwood either way - inconsistent player who only occasionally made a big impact. But why did Joe Burgess go to Salford? Surely he's a better winger than Bibby. Neither Greenwood or Burgess did much in Australia, but their careers are surely going the wrong way. Am I missing something?
Watson does have a way with players.
When he signed for Salford he would have been third choice at Wigan behind Marshall and Manfredi. His contract was running down and he will have had decent wage expectations so at the time probably the right move for him to go to Salford. Hind site given the injuries is a wonderful thing but it will have been sorted by then.
There will be one more big earner leaving Wigan in the next month or so and I’d expect a prop and maybe a cover outside back recruited.
Greenwood no loss. Way down the pecking order and a confidence player that seems to struggle with the weight of expectation placed on him.
Bags of potential and The Giants may well be a very good career move for him.
Greenwood never quite kicked on has he? I don't the guy but he always came across as a bit too cocky for my liking in interviews and he acted like a prize berk when he was giving it large when wigan beat us earlier in the season.
He is at the cross roads of his career now, he needs to talk a bit less and play a lot more
Greenwood never struck me as a wi*an type player. When he was at Saints he was a bit on the timid side. It seems that yard-dog shithousery is instilled in players at the piescum, and he probably struggled to bring that into his game - the 'giving it big bollocks' and the odd high tackle were perhaps his way of trying to just fit in.
Greenwood looked a real prospect for a period and I thought we had a star on our hands. His progress stalled, many blamed Cunningham and I did at the time too but having seen Greenwood at Gold Coast, Wigan and Leeds since then, Cunningham can’t be completely to blame and Greenwood has to take blame here.
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I firmly believe that it's to do with the salary cap. They've may have planned on Hastings doing a runner and so have signed Field, with French staying and Bateman coming in, only 2 of those four can be classed as Marquee players and I'm sure that players like Farrell, George Burgess, Hardaker and Gildart aren't on peanuts so they may be struggling to stay under the cap without shedding some (dead) wood - Joe Burgess, Greenwood, Flower, etc
Greenwood is primarily a left sided back row forward. He isn't going to move Farrell from that position. He isn't going to move Bateman, Isa or Smithies either. Just behind them are the likes of Havard, Shorrocks, Kilner etc who all offer better "value for money"
I believe Wigan are trying to bring in one or two more players and maybe upgrade the contracts of some of the youngsters, Harry Smith being a name mentioned. I don't expect G Burgess to be at Wigan next season either so there should be quite a bit of cap space free.
Forwards win games. The backs decide by how much.
And for me that stalled Greenwood. Though after that he never lived up to early expectations. Watson has taken many other cast offs and turned them into decent players. I wouldn't be surprised if he does the same with Greenwood. However, if he doesn't then I don't see anywhere else for Greenwood other than the likes of HKR or championship.