Barrie Mac

[Prez]

https://youtu.be/6MPww-IBzps?si=FVlWpozIppMoaMwj

Cheers Two Wheeled Saint, it was if anything, worse than I remembered! JT physically pushing a barmaid and ST grabbing a member of the public who was defending the bar staff. Even more enlightening are the reactions in the comments section, Whilst ST was less aggressive, he was still supporting his out of control brother and therefore adding to the abuse and intimidation the girls suffered. Appalling. If folk don't think this is serious they need to ask themselves how they would feel if their wife/partner/ mum was being abused like that, how would they feel.

[Suttoner]

https://youtu.be/6MPww-IBzps?si=FVlWpozIppMoaMwj

OK, so worse than I remember, particularly the insults and bad language and so it’s probably not surprising that JT was ditched by Wigan. ST didn’t seem as drunk or at least was far more passive and should have got his brother out more quickly. Some pushing, trespass (going into a private space behind the bar and refusing to leave) and insulting language and so would have justified a breach of the peace or drunk and disorderly against JT. Technically a common assault, pushing, but the police don’t usually charge that. I’d still classify it as loutish rather than anything else. I hope they’ve both grown up a bit since then.

PS I didn’t realise ST had grabbed one of the elderly couple who intervened.

[STIDDY]

Cheers Two Wheeled Saint, it was if anything, worse than I remembered! JT physically pushing a barmaid and ST grabbing a member of the public who was defending the bar staff. Even more enlightening are the reactions in the comments section, Whilst ST was less aggressive, he was still supporting his out of control brother and therefore adding to the abuse and intimidation the girls suffered. Appalling. If folk don't think this is serious they need to ask themselves how they would feel if their wife/partner/ mum was being abused like that, how would they feel.

That sounds about right, just after the episode we had a meal at the Owls at Standish and the locals were still talking about it. Apparently Shaun Wane was fuming as he has 2 daughters and lives in Standish, I think the club fined Joel 10 grand.

[CaseyJ]

I can't stand either of them as players and they obviously behaved badly but I've seen far worse in pubs before. I'm not excusing them but I don't think either has been in trouble since. Joel actually sounded a bit "simple" listening to it.

[Rogues Gallery]

Joel Tomkins never played for Wigan again after that video was "released"

[CaseyJ]

Joel Tomkins never played for Wigan again after that video was "released"

[Prez]

Joel Tomkins never played for Wigan again after that video was "released"

He never played for them again since he was caught on camera! Who knows how often these louts acted in that fashion towards women but weren't filmed? Scum.

[Pitman1961]

He never played for them again since he was caught on camera! Who knows how often these louts acted in that fashion towards women but weren't filmed? Scum.

Ben Barba,....................

[NSL]

Joel Tomkins never played for Wigan again after that video was "released"

If it was the straw that broke the camels back it wouldn't surprise me, certainly wasn't the first incident.

[Prez]

Ben Barba,....................

Another bad penny by all accounts, can't ever remember anyone on here defending him.

[Tallaght Tiger]

This all sounds familiar, Longy broke a young girls jaw, we still signed him and very few on here ever criticise him.
Many more call for him to be back on the staff.

[STIDDY]

Another bad penny by all accounts, can't ever remember anyone on here defending him.

I thought he was a "model professional" in the time he was with us until his head was turned by the NRL, did promotional work and had a lot of time giving autographs out with the young kids for home and away fans. Didn,t his partner feel dissapointed about going back to OZ because he was behaving himself helped by the club environment here in the UK.

[Prez]

I thought he was a "model professional" in the time he was with us until his head was turned by the NRL, did promotional work and had a lot of time giving autographs out with the young kids for home and away fans. Didn,t his partner feel dissapointed about going back to OZ because he was behaving himself helped by the club environment here in the UK.

True, he did seem to turn his life around when at Saints, which highlights the excellent culture at the club. Unfortunately he appears to have been a rather weak personality and easily led.

[Brian Nazareth]

I thought he was a "model professional" in the time he was with us until his head was turned by the NRL, did promotional work and had a lot of time giving autographs out with the young kids for home and away fans. Didn,t his partner feel dissapointed about going back to OZ because he was behaving himself helped by the club environment here in the UK.

Spot on. His wife was in bits about leaving.

There was a lot of talk about how, in Aus, his extended family and friends circle all saw him as a night-out meal ticket, and would be bad influences on him. Obviously he has his own demons and a person needs to accept responsibility for their own actions, but put a person with some demons linked to intoxication into an environment with people encouraging them to 'party', and it's a recipe for trouble.

About the culture here, I remember a hot, sunny day in the Gerard beer garden watching some England World Cup/Euros game on a giant screen. Place was rammed. In a corner of the old bowling green, were about 10 Saints players, including Barba. The ale was flowing. All the Saints players were perfectly behaved - no Billy Bigbollocks behaviour, no acting the dick, just a group of sensible guys enjoying drinks in the sun and a football game.

[Reacher]

Barba was far from a model professional at Saints. The club did extremely well to keep some things "in house"

As a player though, his performances up to June/July 18 were world class, he was unstoppable at times.

[Dux]

Barba was far from a model professional at Saints. The club did extremely well to keep some things "in house"

As a player though, his performances up to June/July 18 were world class, he was unstoppable at times.

Interesting. Did those things tally up with his form dropping off a cliff?

[STIDDY]

Barba was far from a model professional at Saints. The club did extremely well to keep some things "in house"

As a player though, his performances up to June/July 18 were world class, he was unstoppable at times.

Not aware of that, what stuff did he get up to.