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    Darren Albert was so good. His one on one defence was brilliant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Grouse View Post
    I know wingers aren't as highly prized these days but there's still no better sight than a winger going the length of the field for a try.

    When I started watching the game it was Vollenhoven and then later Killeen, once the got clear the whole crowd was up for it.

    Similarly more recently with Anthony Sullivan and Darren Albert, and Les Quirk was no slouch... once they got clear they didn't get caught
    The tries Sully scored at the JJB in 2000 will live long in the memory, incredible pace even at the back end of his career.

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    Be tempted to put Welsby in at centre myself and rotate Bennison and Hopoate from fullback to wing depending on attacking or defending. Leave Makinson and Percival together


    1. Bennison/Hopoate
    2. Makinson
    3. Percy
    4. Welsby
    5. Bennison/Hopoate

    I'd put Hurrell on the bench. Can cover 2nd row or centre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Be tempted to put Welsby in at centre myself and rotate Bennison and Hopoate from fullback to wing depending on attacking or defending. Leave Makinson and Percival together


    1. Bennison/Hopoate
    2. Makinson
    3. Percy
    4. Welsby
    5. Bennison/Hopoate

    I'd put Hurrell on the bench. Can cover 2nd row or centre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Be tempted to put Welsby in at centre myself and rotate Bennison and Hopoate from fullback to wing depending on attacking or defending. Leave Makinson and Percival together


    1. Bennison/Hopoate
    2. Makinson
    3. Percy
    4. Welsby
    5. Bennison/Hopoate

    I'd put Hurrell on the bench. Can cover 2nd row or centre
    Im going to politely disagree


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Be tempted to put Welsby in at centre myself and rotate Bennison and Hopoate from fullback to wing depending on attacking or defending. Leave Makinson and Percival together


    1. Bennison/Hopoate
    2. Makinson
    3. Percy
    4. Welsby
    5. Bennison/Hopoate

    I'd put Hurrell on the bench. Can cover 2nd row or centre
    Weve had enough enforced disruption this season without moving people around for no reason.

    We need to play our strongest back line in their preferred positions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Be tempted to put Welsby in at centre myself and rotate Bennison and Hopoate from fullback to wing depending on attacking or defending. Leave Makinson and Percival together


    1. Bennison/Hopoate
    2. Makinson
    3. Percy
    4. Welsby
    5. Bennison/Hopoate

    I'd put Hurrell on the bench. Can cover 2nd row or centre
    Take Welsby out of full back and you take half our points away I’m afraid.
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    I honestly don't think it's the worst idea.

    Welsby could do a lot of damage at centre with good early ball.

    I think it's madness splitting tye Percival/Makinson combination up but all just opinions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I honestly don't think it's the worst idea.
    It's not, he'd be the best centre in Super League by an enormous distance. It'd just be a concern what we lose creatively. Bennison isn't doing anything other than running onto passes from fullback, so it'd put a lot of pressure onto Dodd and particularly Lomax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I honestly don't think it's the worst idea.

    Welsby could do a lot of damage at centre with good early ball.

    I think it's madness splitting tye Percival/Makinson combination up but all just opinions
    Welsby already plays centre when he comes into the attacking second phase. He is allowed to pick any side to number up over the opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    Welsby already plays centre when he comes into the attacking second phase. He is allowed to pick any side to number up over the opposition.





    Exactly, as full back he has a roving commission to come into the line on either side.

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    Although we've been unlucky with injuries we are fortunate Welsby/Lomax/Dodd have gone through the season ok but as time goes on we could be looking at Bennison at full back then Welsby & Dodd in the halves.

    That's assuming they don't move to Australia.

    Only time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGSaint View Post
    Darren Albert was so good. His one on one defence was brilliant
    He was all round class. For me at Saints, top 3 with Voll and Killeen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I honestly don't think it's the worst idea.

    Welsby could do a lot of damage at centre with good early ball.

    I think it's madness splitting tye Percival/Makinson combination up but all just opinions
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the left. Percy and TM together though it does weaken the other side, and have we have never seen Hurrel on the left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the left. Percy and TM together though it does weaken the other side, and have we have never seen Hurrel on the left?






    When Hurrel first came to Leeds he played Left Centre, he was devastating. But that was then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGSaint View Post
    Vainikolo style.
    I wouldn't mind seeing it for a couple of games... maybe try it next year though
    Yep I think Hurrell on the wing would be fascinating.

    Attacking wise he could be devastating, but not sure whether it would help or hinder from a defensive perspective.

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    Isn't it a harder for defensive reads etc in the centre?
    The more I think about it the more I wanna see it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I honestly don't think it's the worst idea.

    Welsby could do a lot of damage at centre with good early ball.

    I think it's madness splitting tye Percival/Makinson combination up but all just opinions
    I am all for innovation and it would have to be a crazy plan to get the best out of him, but I am not sure it works with Welsby at centre and I think that is a step too far and would cause too much disruption.

    The big concern for me would be that he would be put in really awkward defensive spots and having to make decisions with the positioning being completely alien to him. It is why I do no like Hardaker at centre either as he suffers with those issues. Whilst I understand why people say he is a #6, I think for the same reasons he would struggle there for a while too. Only have to look at someone like Dodd who is struggling massively with his defence so throwing someone in that spot who has not played a professional game there is a massive risk.

    The other big issue is that Welsby is best when he is roaming around picking overloads up and this plays into his best strength, which is decision making with the ball in 3 v 2 situations and running in between the spot of 3rd and 4th defender. Put him at centre and he has to be far more structured and rigid in where he is and where he can get the ball and we do not get the best out of him with his great passing skills, maybe save for a Gidley flick but I would much prefer him making those long cut out passes with natural centres and wingers outside of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareshadows View Post
    Yep I think Hurrell on the wing would be fascinating.

    Attacking wise he could be devastating, but not sure whether it would help or hinder from a defensive perspective.
    If anything I think that would lessen the defensive load for him and remove him from spots where he is struggling to make the right calls of whether to stick, slide or jam in. Put him on the wing and his instruction should be that if your centre jams in you go with him. If he does not then hold your position. Similar to what Ritson has been doing well on the other side when he has been playing.

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    Would this weekend be the weekend to test it?

    Put Hurrell on the bench to protect him back from injury and then put him on for the last 20 minutes and see how he goes on the wing?

    Could be fun!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareshadows View Post
    Would this weekend be the weekend to test it?

    Put Hurrell on the bench to protect him back from injury and then put him on for the last 20 minutes and see how he goes on the wing?

    Could be fun!!!
    The last 20 mins would be a great time to test it.

    It would certainly put any defense on the back foot and possibly leave them flat footed.

    Do they number up and go for the centre who then whip out to Hurrell and short range he would get over.

    Or do they man mark and leave a gap for the centre to slip through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkers89 View Post
    The last 20 mins would be a great time to test it.

    It would certainly put any defense on the back foot and possibly leave them flat footed.

    Do they number up and go for the centre who then whip out to Hurrell and short range he would get over.

    Or do they man mark and leave a gap for the centre to slip through?
    I recall a game towards the end of Knowsley Road. Due to injuries we ended up putting Faasavalu at centre for the last 15mins of a game, whenever he got the ball he terrified his opposite number :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wirefox View Post
    When Hurrel first came to Leeds he played Left Centre, he was devastating. But that was then ?
    It might be worth a shot then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wirefox View Post
    When Hurrel first came to Leeds he played Left Centre, he was devastating. But that was then ?
    He had a very good game against Saints in that position. Think he made 2 tries and scored one or maybe the other way around

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