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    https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport...wf7KR2eSIir9gw

    Hurrell out for around 4 weeks by the sounds of it. Percival should slot back in to replace him on Sunday.

    No mention of Batchelor and Sironen. At least 1 of them would be a real boost.

    As it stands we are still 9 missing - Hurrell, Walmsley, Paasi, Bennison, Wingfield, LMS, Batchelor, Sironen, Matautia (suspended).
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    It doesn't sit well with me that he's done that early doors and Davies has been on the bench for 75 minutes. Same with Walmsley being put back on with torn ligaments.

    Fair play to the lads for doing it, but they shouldn't be allowed to do so by either the coach or the medical team. Very short sighted and shows a complete lack of trust in the squad players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackrowSaint View Post
    It doesn't sit well with me that he's done that early doors and Davies has been on the bench for 75 minutes. Same with Walmsley being put back on with torn ligaments.

    Fair play to the lads for doing it, but they shouldn't be allowed to do so by either the coach or the medical team. Very short sighted and shows a complete lack of trust in the squad players.
    To be fair Hurrell gets injured in the first 10 mins of every game for most of the season. WIth Walmsley most likely his decision to get patched up because a win was a cup final, they probably got the pitch side diagnosis wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport...wf7KR2eSIir9gw

    Hurrell out for around 4 weeks by the sounds of it. Percival should slot back in to replace him on Sunday.

    No mention of Batchelor and Sironen. At least 1 of them would be a real boost.

    As it stands we are still 9 missing - Hurrell, Walmsley, Paasi, Bennison, Wingfield, LMS, Batchelor, Sironen, Matautia (suspended).
    Sironen has apparently told a fan he’s playing who saw him yesterday. Hopefully that’s true and not made up ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesSL View Post
    Sironen has apparently told a fan he’s playing who saw him yesterday. Hopefully that’s true and not made up ��
    Same was said about Batchelor about 4 games back

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesSL View Post
    Sironen has apparently told a fan he’s playing who saw him yesterday. Hopefully that’s true and not made up ��
    Fingers crossed. We need him and Batchelor back but we also need them to last the season.

    If and when we get them two plus LMS and Matautia back I think we have enough to still fancy our chances. But with Walmsley, Paasi and Wingfield gone I don't think we can afford to lose anyone else for the games that matter at the back end.

    Norman, Royle, Baxter, etc. can do a job for now but with all due respect to those lads I wouldn't want to head into a knockout game with those in the 17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Fingers crossed. We need him and Batchelor back but we also need them to last the season.

    If and when we get them two plus LMS and Matautia back I think we have enough to still fancy our chances. But with Walmsley, Paasi and Wingfield gone I don't think we can afford to lose anyone else for the games that matter at the back end.

    Norman, Royle, Baxter, etc. can do a job for now but with all due respect to those lads I wouldn't want to head into a knockout game with those in the 17.
    Those 3 lads did a good job last week, especially Royle, deserve another game in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    Those 3 lads did a good job last week, especially Royle, deserve another game in my opinion.
    Never been a fan of Royle. I’ve said before that he was destined for the championship, but I have to hold my hand up and say he didn’t let anyone down last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Never been a fan of Royle. I’ve said before that he was destined for the championship, but I have to hold my hand up and say he didn’t let anyone down last week.
    Royle is an interesting case. He's captained every team he's played in at Saints but never really broken into the first team even at 23. You've got to wonder where he's headed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport...wf7KR2eSIir9gw

    Hurrell out for around 4 weeks by the sounds of it. Percival should slot back in to replace him on Sunday.

    No mention of Batchelor and Sironen. At least 1 of them would be a real boost.

    As it stands we are still 9 missing - Hurrell, Walmsley, Paasi, Bennison, Wingfield, LMS, Batchelor, Sironen, Matautia (suspended).
    Never good news for a player to be injured, however if anyone needed a rest and chance to recharge its Hurrell. A fully fit Konnie going into play offs would be big boost. Worrying no mention of batch or sirinon considering they were close to making Leeds game. Out of the 9 Bennison behind ritson anyway in Wello's eyes, Wingfield was struggling for game time ahead of Knowles and Bell and Deleaney has stepped up brilliantly to cover Lms absence. Getting Batch Sirinon and Matautia back in coming weeks is key to our chances of a strong end of season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty2hotty View Post
    Never good news for a player to be injured, however if anyone needed a rest and chance to recharge its Hurrell. A fully fit Konnie going into play offs would be big boost. Worrying no mention of batch or sirinon considering they were close to making Leeds game. Out of the 9 Bennison behind ritson anyway in Wello's eyes, Wingfield was struggling for game time ahead of Knowles and Bell and Deleaney has stepped up brilliantly to cover Lms absence. Getting Batch Sirinon and Matautia back in coming weeks is key to our chances of a strong end of season.
    I agree, when those 3 are back I would go with:

    Lees
    Roby
    Knowles
    Batchelor
    Sironen
    Bell

    Mbye
    Matautia
    LMS
    Delaney

    I think that would still give us enough to beat anyone on our day with a full 1-7 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I agree, when those 3 are back I would go with:

    Lees
    Roby
    Knowles
    Batchelor
    Sironen
    Bell

    Mbye
    Matautia
    LMS
    Delaney

    I think that would still give us enough to beat anyone on our day with a full 1-7 too.
    need to read the full post properly....I thought you had Lees at full back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I agree, when those 3 are back I would go with:

    Lees
    Roby
    Knowles
    Batchelor
    Sironen
    Bell

    Mbye
    Matautia
    LMS
    Delaney

    I think that would still give us enough to beat anyone on our day with a full 1-7 too.
    That is still strong without two important cogs in the forwards. Gives me some degree of hope. However, when are we likely to be able to play this team is anyone's guess and once we can, how long that will last before the inevitable injury/suspension.

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    These injuries we've had this season have been insane. We've done very well considering in my opinion. I bet we've only come close to playing a full strength team once or twice all year. It feels like the physical toll of the last 4 years, the World Cup and then WCC have caught up on this season.

    Fingers crossed Hurrell is nicely rested and fit for the Play Offs and we can get some bodies back soon. Sironen and Batchelor along with LMS and Matautia will be big boosts for us in the next few weeks.
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    Full update now provided:

    https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport...y-news-update/

    Sironen and Percival hopefully back. No Batchelor yet.
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    I agree pretty much with all the above. It is bad news, but with Hopoate fit and playing well, it’s not a complete disaster in my view. Hurrell needed a break so I hope he comes back fit in a month.

    It’s still in the forwards where the problem is and we need the three back. Is Foster fit and ready yet as well.

    Royle had a good game too and I think he’s under rated.

    Knowles to prop forward for the rest of the season, where I think he would do a very good job; shades of Andy Platt!

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    Sqauds been announced. Looks very decimated. Good to see Siro and Percy back though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St Willy View Post
    Sqauds been announced. Looks very decimated. Good to see Siro and Percy back though.
    I thought there is a pretty good 17 in that squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasty View Post
    I thought there is a pretty good 17 in that squad
    Certainly is pal. Crazy to think how many we're missing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St Willy View Post
    Certainly is pal. Crazy to think how many we're missing though.
    Yes, it is.

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    8 missing, 5 of those would certainly be the in the 17 if everyone fit.

    Batchelor, Hurrell, Walmsley, Paasi, Matautia

    Bennison, LMS and Wingfield borderline.
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    Wellens’ comments about Walmsley are a little worrying to me. Purely hearsay but I was told by a colleague that it was likely we wouldn’t see him back at Saints next season, for family reasons rather than rugby reasons

    If that’s the case we could have already seen his last game in a Saints shirt

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    I’ve been away for two weeks and only just come back so I’ve only been reading snippets over the past couple of weeks.

    I was really confused with quotes that Gary Carter used as initially it sounded as though Walmsley was considering his future after being injured again and that he was wondering if it was the Sport for him.

    However when I clicked on the actual article it seemed to be that Wellens was saying it about his son in that he was wondering if his son should be playing the game now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reacher View Post
    I’ve been away for two weeks and only just come back so I’ve only been reading snippets over the past couple of weeks.

    I was really confused with quotes that Gary Carter used as initially it sounded as though Walmsley was considering his future after being injured again and that he was wondering if it was the Sport for him.

    However when I clicked on the actual article it seemed to be that Wellens was saying it about his son in that he was wondering if his son should be playing the game now.


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    I think Wellens made both statements, the one about AW and the one about his son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reacher View Post
    I’ve been away for two weeks and only just come back so I’ve only been reading snippets over the past couple of weeks.

    I was really confused with quotes that Gary Carter used as initially it sounded as though Walmsley was considering his future after being injured again and that he was wondering if it was the Sport for him.

    However when I clicked on the actual article it seemed to be that Wellens was saying it about his son in that he was wondering if his son should be playing the game now.


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    That's all I saw in that article and the only thing I saw linking to him saying it was about Walmsley was one of those spammy clickbait ones, total or love RL ones, but to me all I saw was him saying he didn't feel comfortable with his lad playing a sport where he wasn't protected properly. He just said Alex and iggy were proper ****ed off.

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