The North Stand of my club's facing East and West's facing South....
The North Stand of my club's facing East and West's facing South....
Saints 2nd highest losses last season, £1.4mil according to this. I'm sure they're are people on here that have a better understanding of how a club's finances work?
Is this expected? Sounds like it, given the other big clubs are posting similar figures (Leeds, wigan, Warrington all between 1 mil and 1.4 mil)
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post...pKXy9ZHZ4GBEaQ
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Our actual loss is circa £400k when you add back depreciation which is just a paper figure. Wigan on the other hand lost £1.2 with less than £100k of depreciation.Originally Posted by EddieVonEagle
Saints EBITDA - Circa minus £400k
Wigans EBITDA - Circa Minus £1.1m
No wonder Leneghan wanted out
I don't know how Huddersfield can survive without Ken Davey who continues to put millions into the club year on year just for the merry cowbell ringer and his few friends. He deserves better support (and a better coach) Salford being named as the team with least losses is a bit rich as from what I read they've not paid a penny in rent to Salford Council ever since they've been in their rented accommodation. It wouldn't surprise me if Wakefield or Castleford are subject to a rule change and whichever one doesn't get relegated as things at Featherstone aren't too promising
How does promotion work, is it the winner of their grand final? If so, I hope Toulouse beat them. Featherstone, Castleford or Wakefield is the same thing with different coloured shirts. If they amalgamate and play one super league team that might work.
But they won’t do that, obviously!
I know it is off topic but, Fev have won their version of the LLS and there will be a play off system to see who comes up.
The top 2 get the week off with 3 v 6 and 4 v 5.
The highest ranked winner of those two games then plays 2 and the lowest ranked winner plays 1.
The winners of those two semis will then play each other in the GF with the highest ranked placed team having home advantage. So Fev coming top stops them from having to go to France if they can win their semi final, which will be huge. Whoever beats Fev if Toulouse win their semi will have to go to France.
I think it is fairly certain that Fev will come up as Toulouse's away form is dreadful and Fev are so much better than the rest. So to answer your question, I think it is those type of teams that really drag SL down.
If we could see a merger with them and also with the Cumbrian teams in theory that would be so much better for the game, but it would never work because those teams are so established within their own right that you are unlikely to get the buy in from the fans, which will determine how successful that is.
Without saying too much, this is an ongoing ‘discussion’ between the club and the local authority. Both not quite on the same page regarding it.
I think what it broadly means is that we are in good hands.
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Yes I’m sure you’re right
Mergers are just a quick way to kill six clubs, in terms of the Wakefield, Cas and Fev and Barrow, Workington and Whitehaven clubs.
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Essentially the West Yorkshire Merger has happened by default.
Bradford neutered Keighley.
Leeds have taken out the rest of West Yorkshire and then Bradford self-destructed.
This left Leeds as the only viable club able to win anything and soaking up all the talent in West Yorkshire.
Huddersfield are living off a rich sponsor and Castleford & Wakefield struggle to get out from under the shadow of Leeds as the big City club on their doorstep.
However, for the manoeuvre to be complete it is not enough just to decimate local rival clubs a viable replacement club in another area has to be found otherwise we would be a league of 8-10 clubs.
The only expansion club to have worked in terms of building a solid base is Catalan. So we should not wish the demise of the smaller clubs as an end in itself. We need new clubs to come in and be established with more fans, solid business plans and a plan to expand the game at grass roots in that area.
London did all this apart from building its fan base.
So sadly expansion for expansions sake is not a solution to SLs woes as its not as though we have a list of places where we can viably expand to.
I think expansion and mergers are two distinct issues within our game, but I think you are right to talk about them in the same way.
You say Catalans was the only success of expansion, but that was a RL hot spot which London never was. I am also pretty sure that Catalans were formed through a merger of two French championship sides and one that had existed for nearly 100 years.
I think that the answer is that they wouldn’t survive without Ken Davy or someone like him.
They were called Union Treiziste Catalane or UTC for short, formed by a merger of XIII Catalan, founded in1934, and Saint Esteve, founded in 1965.
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