Maybe the Sironen one wash harsh,but we know from last year if you hit in the back and the man goes to ground then it's 10 minutes. It's not a dubious overturned try,it's a clear loss of control.
Yes it was a shoulder and yes we should of had a penalty. But that doesn't alter the fact our poor discipline and poor defence was more costly. They put a high kick up and no one catches it,only Welsby is coming for it and he's way off it. When Martin scores the tackling is just awful,so many chances to stop that try.
Like I said the ref was poor,but we shouldn't of been in the situation it became an issue.