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    Rather like the Vaughan incident, let's have some consistency, French must be banned for deliberate contact with an official, innocuous or not, thems the rules matey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prez View Post
    Rather like the Vaughan incident, let's have some consistency, French must be banned for deliberate contact with an official, innocuous or not, thems the rules matey!
    Trouble is it's a grade A-E offence.

    So could just pick up a fine

    Can't keep up with how it works but he's just had a fine for something else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint from Bury View Post
    so how many will we have banned for the Warrington game? Cullen will get Sironen and Delaney I reckon.
    I’m not sure why you keep banging this drum given our best player this season has picked up a 4 match ban for a relatively innocuous incident, but which will directly favour Saints?
    Time to let it go maybe?

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    He's been cited and fined twice already this season. It has to be picked up, especially after the Mbye contact which was comical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie McWolf View Post
    I’m not sure why you keep banging this drum given our best player this season has picked up a 4 match ban for a relatively innocuous incident, but which will directly favour Saints?
    Time to let it go maybe?
    Ah yes, but the MRP didn't know it would "directly favour Saints" at the time, did they? Perhaps Cullen had a week off? Anyway, not to worry there's still time to forensically analyse the last Saints match and slap bans on key players to even it all up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie McWolf View Post
    I’m not sure why you keep banging this drum given our best player this season has picked up a 4 match ban for a relatively innocuous incident, but which will directly favour Saints?
    Time to let it go maybe?
    The two things are not interdependent.

    We've had players routinely banned for tackling a kicker/passer a fraction of a second after they've kicked/passed, when dozens of other incidents - involving players of other clubs - of tackling kicker/passer a fraction of a second after they've kicked/passed have been unpunished.

    Almost universally, people in here have said the 4 games for Vaughan was ridiculous punitive (as were previous such bans, including by one of our players last season).

    It's a statistical curiosity, though, that players for teams facing Warrington next up have suffered some harsh bans.

    FWIW, I think Wigan consistently get shown the most leniency. Exhibit 'A' is that genetically-deficient mutant Smithies thrusting his over-sized and misshapen head into the faces of opposition players. Been warned about it a few times, but never any action taken.

    A specific incident that springs to mind was earlier in the season when (IIRC) Wardle (may have been King) lined up O'Brien who passed it and Wardle/King hit him with the shoulder into the neck/jaw later than Hurrell had hit Myler (2 game ban). O'Brien failed the HIA. Was amongst the worst late & high hit I've seen this season. No ban. (Incidentally, the scum played us next week; I think Wardle scored and we lost)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie McWolf View Post
    I’m not sure why you keep banging this drum given our best player this season has picked up a 4 match ban for a relatively innocuous incident, but which will directly favour Saints?
    Time to let it go maybe?
    Too much evidence to confirm we are treated differently than most clubs. There was a vicious head tackle on Delaney last night which should have been a yellow card at least and on Monday if it was Lees, Sironen or Matautia its a a 1 or 2 game ban. The Hull player will probably will just end up with a fine. Cullen and Co need to be sacked off and start again with some people who up to speed with the modern game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Nazareth View Post
    The two things are not interdependent.

    We've had players routinely banned for tackling a kicker/passer a fraction of a second after they've kicked/passed, when dozens of other incidents - involving players of other clubs - of tackling kicker/passer a fraction of a second after they've kicked/passed have been unpunished.

    Almost universally, people in here have said the 4 games for Vaughan was ridiculous punitive (as were previous such bans, including by one of our players last season).

    It's a statistical curiosity, though, that players for teams facing Warrington next up have suffered some harsh bans.

    FWIW, I think Wigan consistently get shown the most leniency. Exhibit 'A' is that genetically-deficient mutant Smithies thrusting his over-sized and misshapen head into the faces of opposition players. Been warned about it a few times, but never any action taken.

    A specific incident that springs to mind was earlier in the season when (IIRC) Wardle (may have been King) lined up O'Brien who passed it and Wardle/King hit him with the shoulder into the neck/jaw later than Hurrell had hit Myler (2 game ban). O'Brien failed the HIA. Was amongst the worst late & high hit I've seen this season. No ban. (Incidentally, the scum played us next week; I think Wardle scored and we lost)
    You may have missed the 2 extremely lengthy bans Maguire got. I’m not disputing that if he used the word alleged he should’ve been banned. I do dispute that words should attract harsher bans than physical violence. Never the less if you look on our forum you’ll see the main person on there complaining about injustice is not a Wire fan but your very own Saddened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie McWolf View Post
    You may have missed the 2 extremely lengthy bans Maguire got. I’m not disputing that if he used the word alleged he should’ve been banned. I do dispute that words should attract harsher bans than physical violence. Never the less if you look on our forum you’ll see the main person on there complaining about injustice is not a Wire fan but your very own Saddened.
    The fact they’re on your forum in the first place just about sums it up. It seems to do anything for attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickles Forearm View Post
    The fact they’re on your forum in the first place just about sums it up. It seems to do anything for attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie McWolf View Post
    You may have missed the 2 extremely lengthy bans Maguire got. I’m not disputing that if he used the word alleged he should’ve been banned. I do dispute that words should attract harsher bans than physical violence. Never the less if you look on our forum you’ll see the main person on there complaining about injustice is not a Wire fan but your very own Saddened.
    Which has nothing to do with what I posted.
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    I see the same comments from fans of every other team.
    Sky sports love saints. Refs in saints pocket etc..

    I've got over the bias, and just settled with incompetent and inconsistent disciplinary.
    There needs to be a shake up for sure
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    George Delaney 1 match ban for a high tackle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whittle Hall Saint View Post
    George Delaney 1 match ban for a high tackle.
    Wigan will have Ellis, Hill and French missing for their eliminator. Hull and Leigh will more than fancy their chances with French missing


    Edit... Wigan will use the academy grand final to count against their bans ... I'm guessing we'll do the same with Delaney. An embarrassing rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJon View Post
    Wigan will have Ellis, Hill and French missing for their eliminator. Hull and Leigh will more than fancy their chances with French missing
    Watch them 'serve their suspensions' by sitting out the reserve grand final this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJon View Post
    Wigan will have Ellis, Hill and French missing for their eliminator. Hull and Leigh will more than fancy their chances with French missing
    They won't miss the Semi, they will miss the reserve Grand Final. Absolutely ridiculous loophole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobbynator View Post
    They won't miss the Semi, they will miss the reserve Grand Final. Absolutely ridiculous loophole.
    But the RFL will be able to counter accusations of bentness by pointing at the three one-game bans and saying, "See, we do ban Wigan players"

    Was hoping that was French's season over.
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    Surely the teams they’ll face in the playoffs will make some form of appeal? French will have never played a reserve game and I doubt Ellis has, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJon View Post
    Wigan will have Ellis, Hill and French missing for their eliminator. Hull and Leigh will more than fancy their chances with French missing


    Edit... Wigan will use the academy grand final to count against their bans ... I'm guessing we'll do the same with Delaney. An embarrassing rule
    We can't do the same as our first team are playing. Wigan have the week off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reacher View Post
    We can't do the same as our first team are playing. Wigan have the week off.
    I get that it's a big loophole but all teams do it..


    Clubs also use friendlies, and use games when the banned players are injured.

    Do we intend not to do the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whittle Hall Saint View Post
    George Delaney 1 match ban for a high tackle.
    Was that the incident were Delaney stood his ground and the Hull player slipped and crashed into Delaney head first and knocked himself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareshadows View Post
    I get that it's a big loophole but all teams do it..


    Clubs also use friendlies, and use games when the banned players are injured.

    Do we intend not to do the same?
    I’m confused. How can we do the same? We can only do it if we have a weekend off. We reduced Knowles ban by a game with the International fixture earlier this season.


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    I'm sorry if I'm being a bit thick, but how can French use the Academy Grand Final as one of his banned games? Wasn't it Saturday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesaintdave View Post
    I'm sorry if I'm being a bit thick, but how can French use the Academy Grand Final as one of his banned games? Wasn't it Saturday?
    The reserve grand final is on Sunday

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    Ive got you - cheers for clearing that up.

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