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    Not took long Josh McGuire Warrington & Tom Amone Leigh refered to tribunal Grade F charge unacceptable language possible 8 matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by philthompson View Post
    Not took long Josh McGuire Warrington & Tom Amone Leigh refered to tribunal Grade F charge unacceptable language possible 8 matches
    Think it’s only 6 matches now since they readjusted the tariffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintsaregods View Post
    Think it’s only 6 matches now since they readjusted the tariffs.
    The new minimum for that is eight.
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    Called someone a “s*****c”, which is pretty vile and derogatory, so rightfully looking at a ban, if found guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos Cervezas View Post
    Called someone a “s*****c”, which is pretty vile and derogatory, so rightfully looking at a ban, if found guilty.
    The bloke is a total grub and is well known for being complete idiot in the NRL he will have plenty of visits to red hall in the future so at least he’s getting to know where it is early doors lolol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos Cervezas View Post
    The new minimum for that is eight.
    https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...--happens-now/

    It states six is in the minimum half way down the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintsaregods View Post
    https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...--happens-now/

    It states six is in the minimum half way down the article.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos Cervezas View Post
    Called someone a “s*****c”, which is pretty vile and derogatory, so rightfully looking at a ban, if found guilty.
    I don’t agree at all with players giving any abuse to the referee. But is swearing at another player worth a 6 week ban? When you think of some of the spear type tackles that players have got a penalty or yellow card for, then I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I don’t agree at all with players giving any abuse to the referee. But is swearing at another player worth a 6 week ban? When you think of some of the spear type tackles that players have got a penalty or yellow card for, then I think not.
    It's not just swearing though in this case, he's made a derogatory remark best around a mental disability. There will always be sides who don't think its as bad as those who do, but ultimately you just can't be saying that kind of stuff as a professional 'role model'. I'm sure both the PDRL and LDRL teams at Warrington wouldn't be too keen on one of their first team players using their disability as a slur, especially when as you say, he could have just swore at the opponents instead. It probably was just a heat of the moment thing from McGuire, but he's got to be wiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackrowSaint View Post
    It's not just swearing though in this case, he's made a derogatory remark best around a mental disability. There will always be sides who don't think its as bad as those who do, but ultimately you just can't be saying that kind of stuff as a professional 'role model'. I'm sure both the PDRL and LDRL teams at Warrington wouldn't be too keen on one of their first team players using their disability as a slur, especially when as you say, he could have just swore at the opponents instead. It probably was just a heat of the moment thing from McGuire, but he's got to be wiser.
    I think the article I read used the term “profanity”. So I obviously don’t know what he is actually accused of saying.
    I’m all for cleaning the game up but I thought, if we start giving 6 week bans to player swearing at each other it’s time to give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I think the article I read used the term “profanity”. So I obviously don’t know what he is actually accused of saying.
    I’m all for cleaning the game up but I thought, if we start giving 6 week bans to player swearing at each other it’s time to give up.
    Yeah I agree, I don't think there has ever been, or will be, hefty bans for just general swearing. It's a high adrenaline collision sport, that's part and parcel.

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    Seven matches and £1,000 fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I think the article I read used the term “profanity”. So I obviously don’t know what he is actually accused of saying.
    I’m all for cleaning the game up but I thought, if we start giving 6 week bans to player swearing at each other it’s time to give up.
    He used the word Spastic.
    Times have changed like a lot of things and you really think that modern professionals should know better.
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    I’ve no issue with a lengthy ban for language like that in the game. Not sure what has tipped it over the edge from a minimum of six games to make it seven, mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Div View Post
    He used the word Spastic.
    Times have changed like a lot pf things and you really think that modern professionals should know better.
    I don't know why anyone would call someone that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos Cervezas View Post
    I’ve no issue with a lengthy ban for language like that in the game. Not sure what has tipped it over the edge from a minimum of six games to make it seven, mind.
    it will either be his attitude in the disciplinary meeting that upped it from the minimum, or they have left it open for him to appeal it down to 6 games.

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    Paasi cleared

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    Sione Matautia (St Helens) - Grade C Dangerous Contact - 2 Match Penalty Notice

    Konrad Hurrell (St Helens) - Grade C Strikes - 2 Match Penalty Notice

    Curtis Sironen (St Helens) - Grade B Dangerous Contact - 1 Match Penalty Notice

    Sam Walters (Leeds Rhinos) - Grade B Shoulder Charge - £250 fine



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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieVonEagle View Post
    Sione Matautia (St Helens) - Grade C Dangerous Contact - 2 Match Penalty Notice

    Konrad Hurrell (St Helens) - Grade C Strikes - 2 Match Penalty Notice

    Curtis Sironen (St Helens) - Grade B Dangerous Contact - 1 Match Penalty Notice

    Sam Walters (Leeds Rhinos) - Grade B Shoulder Charge - £250 fine



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    No real complaints. I’m assuming Sironon’s previous means he gets a ban when Walters doesn’t. Shows Kendall was wrong when he said it definitely wasn’t a shoulder charge though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieVonEagle View Post
    Sione Matautia (St Helens) - Grade C Dangerous Contact - 2 Match Penalty Notice

    Konrad Hurrell (St Helens) - Grade C Strikes - 2 Match Penalty Notice

    Curtis Sironen (St Helens) - Grade B Dangerous Contact - 1 Match Penalty Notice

    Sam Walters (Leeds Rhinos) - Grade B Shoulder Charge - £250 fine



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    Grade B shoulder charge, Chris Kendall deserves a ban for missing it.

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    Yeh, think we all expected as much tbh. Just a bit surprised that the shoulder charge is only a B given how forceful it was, turns out it's less dangerous than a fractionally late shot on a passer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Grade B shoulder charge, Chris Kendall deserves a ban for missing it.
    I would like to know why Smith the video ref never instructed kendal that it was illegal. Or did he and he was ignored. That's really got my back up and I think wello should demand an answer to tat question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Grade B shoulder charge, Chris Kendall deserves a ban for missing it.
    I would like to know why Smith the video ref never instructed kendal that it was illegal. Or did he and he was ignored. That's really got my back up and I think wello should demand an answer to that question.

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    Interesting that the file was called 'NEW MRP Minutes 06 March 2023 [6]. Must've been a few opinions needing editing this week.

    Agreed with decisions but gutted, especially for Koni: the hit was late, it made contact with the head but in my opinion Myler deserves an oscar.

    I was annoyed during the match at the shoulder charge being missed because it felt like the video ref was giving Kendall advice during the game with the length of time some calls took but that one wasn't. Having watched it again I think it was human error, nothing more. No ref = no game.
    Last edited by grungellamas; 6th March 2023 at 15:04. Reason: wrong name

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    Kendal needs to be stood down this week for this mistake and who ever was the video ref also.

    Everyone could see it was a shoulder charge and a penalty other than the officials, The fine and no ban I'm ok with for Walters from the RFL thats all it deserves. Saints were robbed on the night.

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