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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Cant not be happy with that.

    Sironen and Sione in the SR next year with Knowles at 13!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintMCMXCIV View Post
    Can’t not be happy with that.

    Sironen and Sione in the SR next year with Knowles at 13!
    Yeah I am pleased with that. Our starting pack is one to be feared next year:

    Walmsley, Roby, Lees
    Sironen, Matautia,
    Knowles

    Lussick, Paasi, LMS off the bench. Excellent stuff.
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    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.n...to-savour/amp/

    Appreciate it’s a couple of years old and he might not be off the drink now but I thought it was a decent read and looks as though he’s done a bit of growing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintMCMXCIV View Post
    Can’t not be happy with that.

    Sironen and Sione in the SR next year with Knowles at 13!
    Dont forget Batchelor, the way he has played this year he cant be discounted.

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    Looking forward to see him play. The complete opposite of Thompson.
    On paper a much better fit.
    One question regarding him and hopoate?

    Is the option in the club or the players favour?
    Never made clear in press releases and interviews

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    Hes a big body. I dont watch Manly much up. Can he play a bit of prop or is he solely a back rower?
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    A fair few injuries that leaves a bit of a question mark over him. He’s not played a lot this year, either and has played 64 minutes over recent weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishy3005 View Post
    He’s a big body. I don’t watch Manly much up. Can he play a bit of prop or is he solely a back rower?
    He's played at 6 and 13 earlier in his career. Don't remember him ever playing prop.
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    A left edge of Dodd, Mata'utia, Percival & Grace, a right edge of Lomax, Sironen, Hopoate & Makinson with Welsby floating looks very strong. Then you've got the likes of Walmsley, Roby, Knowles, Lees, Paasi going through the middle. I think a few of us were thinking next season might be a transition period with so many big players leaving but with the signings we are making along with the excitement of Dodd and Welsby we can expect to be up there challenging for the lot again.
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    I hope he is better than our most recent signing from Manly

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    Not seen a great deal of him.

    Hopefully he can put his injuries behind him and prove to be a good signing for us.

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    As has been said he's a big body with some ball handling ability from his early days. The big worry would be his injury record. This season he got injured in round 1 and has only just made it back in round 20. If he can stay on the field I think he will offer more than Thompson. I am hopeful he will go well over here.

    Interesting and detailed analysis taken from one poster on the Manly forum ;

    Sirro Pros:
    Experience, Fwd Leader
    Perspective: Long time in Manly System under multiple coaches/coaching staff
    Ex-5/8th with Ball-playing capability
    Aged 28, Big Unit, Fwds are late-bloomers; 28 is arguably close to peak-powers
    Versatile potential between 2nd-row and Prop

    Sirro Cons:
    Injury Prone, Limited to 62 games over 5 seasons for MWSE
    Has lost some mobility off the back of injuries
    Undeniably superior alternative options for 2nd row currently exist (Guac/Schuster/Lawton)
    Undeniably superior alternative options for Prop currently exist (Marty/Keppie/Tent/Aloiai)
    Purported Salary bloat when compared to current better options
    Play-stifling instincts (default cutting back in against the grain, starving outside backs - seems the only remaining play in his repertoire)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whittle Hall Saint View Post
    Play-stifling instincts (default cutting back in against the grain, starving outside backs - seems the only remaining play in his repertoire)
    That's a bit of a worry. Sounds like peyroux in his last couple of seasons.

    That said much happier with his signing over Thompson. There seems a logic to signing him. Hopefully his ball playing skills will be utilised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Mate do you ever sleep? On the ball I'll give you that

    Good signing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whittle Hall Saint View Post
    As has been said he's a big body with some ball handling ability from his early days. The big worry would be his injury record. This season he got injured in round 1 and has only just made it back in round 20. If he can stay on the field I think he will offer more than Thompson. I am hopeful he will go well over here.

    Interesting and detailed analysis taken from one poster on the Manly forum ;

    Sirro Pros:
    Experience, Fwd Leader
    Perspective: Long time in Manly System under multiple coaches/coaching staff
    Ex-5/8th with Ball-playing capability
    Aged 28, Big Unit, Fwds are late-bloomers; 28 is arguably close to peak-powers
    Versatile potential between 2nd-row and Prop

    Sirro Cons:
    Injury Prone, Limited to 62 games over 5 seasons for MWSE
    Has lost some mobility off the back of injuries
    Undeniably superior alternative options for 2nd row currently exist (Guac/Schuster/Lawton)
    Undeniably superior alternative options for Prop currently exist (Marty/Keppie/Tent/Aloiai)
    Purported Salary bloat when compared to current better options
    Play-stifling instincts (default cutting back in against the grain, starving outside backs - seems the only remaining play in his repertoire)
    Only 62 games over 5 seasons is bit of a concern. I’m not gonna be negative though. Lets just see how he goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Mander View Post
    That's a bit of a worry. Sounds like peyroux in his last couple of seasons.

    That said much happier with his signing over Thompson. There seems a logic to signing him. Hopefully his ball playing skills will be utilised.

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    Yeah, his experience at 6 plus reports that he has ball-playing skills had me happy.

    But that report from a Manly fan is a bit concerning, especially as Woolf doesn't seem to coach second rowers to run good lines between players then release as they hit the line, or get their hands through to feed the centre. And as others have said, a catalogue of injuries and surgery (shoulder, knee, neck, pectoral) through the course of his career have limited his appearances. Think 22 games in a whole season is his record.

    Hope he is brilliant, but I'll not get too excited just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weetabix View Post
    Mate do you ever sleep? On the ball I'll give you that

    Good signing that.
    Haha Reacher txted me earlier just saying "do you ever work?"

    I just happened to open Twitter earlier just as Saints posted it to be fair.
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    If he's anything like his old man he'll do for me, always rated Paul Sironen. Wonder if he'll have a "word" with Barrie McDermott on his behalf after the shocking elbow he stuck on him years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    Yeah, his experience at 6 plus reports that he has ball-playing skills had me happy.

    But that report from a Manly fan is a bit concerning, especially as Woolf doesn't seem to coach second rowers to run good lines between players then release as they hit the line, or get their hands through to feed the centre. And as others have said, a catalogue of injuries and surgery (shoulder, knee, neck, pectoral) through the course of his career have limited his appearances. Think 22 games in a whole season is his record.

    Hope he is brilliant, but I'll not get too excited just yet.
    Is it the same Manly fan that was sorry Thompson was leaving ? And saying he would be really good in superleague?

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    Does that mean we aren't after Taukeiaho?

    I hope not, was really hoping to see him in the redvee

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJon View Post
    Does that mean we aren't after Taukeiaho?

    I hope not, was really hoping to see him in the redvee
    Not necessarily. We’re probably still a second row short, IMO.
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    I have my first day in the office since Feb 2020 and Saints go and announce a signing! Typical!

    Makes the Hurrell rumours a lot more tolerable as he should be covered a lot more by having Sironen as first choice.

    In: Will Hopoate (Canterbury Bulldogs), Curtis Sironen (Manly Sea Eagles)
    Out: James Bentley (Leeds Rhinos), Joel Thompson (Retiring), Kevin Naiqama (Australia/ Retiring?), Lachlan Coote (Hull KR)
    Retained; Tommy Makinson, Jack Welsby, Regan Grace, Johnny Lomax, Alex Walmsley, Jake Wingfield, Josh Simm, James Roby, Joe Batchelor, LMS (Kristian Woolf)
    Outstanding: Kyle Amor, Theo Fages

    Since the rumours thread is broken (and only showing posts up to the end of August…)

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    Makes the Hurrell rumours even more nonsensical.

    With Sironen, we'll have him, Mata'utia and Batchelor as second rowers, plus Wingfield and Foster (both of whom look like talents).

    In the centres, we have Percival & Hopoate, plus Simm.

    We just don't need Hurrell, who would be an unnecessary luxury signing which, in a salary-capped sport, is ludicrous.



    To add, if Amor is going, then we need another prop, because I don't think anyone rates Norman enough. And we would have no cover at halfback.
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    Im trying to be positive about the Sironen signing but looking at his recent fitness Im hoping we haven’t put him on big money.
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