I'm not necessarily against the signing, just want us to be mindful of the potential risks. He also kicks goals if you want to add to the list of positives!Originally Posted by Saddened!
I'm not necessarily against the signing, just want us to be mindful of the potential risks. He also kicks goals if you want to add to the list of positives!
Forwards win games. The backs decide by how much.
Not for me. 32 and did nothing last year.
It was always fishy why Roosters was ok to let him leave in the first place. Probably knew his body was shot and injuries would.take over.
We're ok with what we have at prop.
Backs, backs, backs is what we need
Equally I wonder about fans like you that are so desperate to sign someone your willing to ignore all the serious red flags with a player.
Are you seriously not bothered that the guy doesn't want to play in SL and is desperate to go back to Aus (as he's said publicly) and is therefore completely lacking in any sort of motivation ?
or that he was at best average last year in the few games he managed to get on the field ?,
or that he is currently injured with no news on how long he could be out for, potentially leaving us with another prop sat on the sidelines for a large part of next season even before he's played a single game for us ?
But hey I guess if all that makes you feel better because we've signed someone and filled our quota spots, even if its highly likely it would be a disasterous signing.
I think he's been a good signing really. He had an odd start to his saints career, coming in at the tail end of a tough season and without his family. I think he will be better still this season and covers a lot of positions which increases competition, especially for scrum half where we've been lacking cover for a while.
Don't disagree backs are the priority. Going off McManus' comments I don't think we're even looking at the moment. I think they'll move if we really struggle. If the likes of Olam/Blake/Hunt/Spry aren't good enough, I'd love to know who the club is hoping might become available mid-season. Do they have someone specific in mind?
Newman?
That's overly dramatic. I'm not suggesting the club should sign him by the way. But if the club did get into negotiations with him and decided he was the right fit and he passed his medical with us and they were happy with it, I'd be happy with that. In terms of the quality of player, it's undeniable. He's world class and he looked pretty good against us in the semi final. Canterbury want to sign him, but can't until they move someone on. If he retires now, I suspect you're right about his condition, but you don't know that. If he finds a solution at the Bulldogs or stays at Catalans perhaps not, we'll see.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/59595880
Possible I guess. Be very reminiscent of what happened with Grace though, spending too long on one target and potentially ending up suffering for 18 months if it doesn't come off as we hope.
Different people put a different spin on what they hear. I thought the same as you, improvement through a full pre season with us and not new to his surroundings and team mates.
Wellens had plenty of opportunity to play Mbye at #7 last season, but chose to persist with Dodd. Likewise, he had chances to play Mbye (and Lussick for that matter) at #9, but chose to flog Roby into the ground every week.
Based on that, I can't see anything other than Mbye fulfilling the same role of 15 minutes off the bench every week.
I,m expecting our pivots 1, 6, 7, 9-1 and 9-2 to perform better next year in respect to attacking play. When you look back 6,7 + 9 were below par last year. We have an academy No 9 in the mix as well allowing Mybe to have a few games in the backs.
I've said before I think Newman is a bit of a loose canon, completely the wrong temperament for Saints. Unlike Welsby he comes across as an aggressive moaner and trouble maker rather than a leader. He also appears injury prone. I don't like what I've seen of him but at the same time I can acknowledge he's a talented player.
Never seen Moylan play to be honest. Must admit I thought we were having Joe Mellor or Ben McNamara partnering Lam in the halves. Time will tell I suppose if he's worth Degsy's money...
Notwithstanding the obvious, yes, he would be a great signing. We don't know the circumstances at Catalan regarding his "homesickness", nor the extent of his injury. If these two issues can be resolved, then I think he could do a job for us.
He played 7 games last year and has failed a medical for the nrl, not good on the injury front is it ?
We won ten on the spin from Mbye making his debut through to the Warrington playoff game, and whilst I don't have the stats to hand I'm confident in saying that Mbye played considerably more minutes on average than Lussick did. That's not to say that Roby wasn't flogged, granted. Think Mbye will have more of a part to play in numerous positions next year.
There's usually a couple of reasons players fail medicals;
Due to the extent of the current injury (ie. length of time expected to be out),
The seriousness of it meaning there's a high risk of them never recovering or of the injury re-occuring, or
the clubs insurance refuse to insure him (or will only do so at a stupid premium) due to one of the above.
Either way its not a good sign for any other potential club thinking about signing him.
https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2023/11/2...anks/?swcfpc=1
Interesting Vaughan article; especially the amount of reference to him being in the back row, maybe we see his long term future there, with Sambou coming through at centre?
I can’t see where there is so much reference to him being in the back row?
The first line even reads back-rower-come-centre.
He WILL play in the centres.
Sambou definitely looks like a winger from what I've seen, but happy to be wrong. I think Robertson and Dagnall could both also start on either the wing or at centre. Does anyone want to rank those four? They all seem to be highly rated.
Could this be the problem with signing a winger/centre. In that rather than it being this mystical lack of players to sign anywhere in the world, it's rather they are reluctant as they know what's coming and don't want to choke the squad?
last thing you want to do is block promising young players.
He used to be a top, top player. These days not so much but still a good signing for Super League for sure
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