Agree but just in case anyone is unclear here’s a handy update..
https://youtu.be/OMdPj3HXMgQ
Everything can be made fun of really? Less-able people, people with learning disabilities, people who are gay etc. (there are ‘funny’ names for all these people that were in general use in the past, I’m sure you don’t need me to remind you of them)....... or shall we just make fun people who were born slightly different than the rest of us.
Yes, everything can be, it depends how those viewing it take it, if you dont like it dont listen or watch it. Josh Blue is a handicapped comedian who uses it as part of his bit, Chris Rock is notable for jokes about black people, he also makes jokes about white people, dont hear anyone complaining about that. You seem to be on a crusade to stop people say anything mildly controversial, i dont think anyone has said anything derogatory about James Childs based on his sexuality, everything has been either about his failings as a referee or clearly a joke, no matter how distasteful you think it is, as soon as you start censoring people you open yourself up to censorship yourself, because people might find what you agree with offensive.
Point is, your “joke” wasn’t even funny, it’s just crass and belies a obviously bigoted view. I saw your other comment which basically said that James Childs had better be a good enough ref to come out, otherwise he’s setting himself up for abuse. I mean, truly dark ages stuff.
I’m going to mute you as I don’t want to read anymore of your appalling views.
Oh Lardy dah I'm going to mute you! You devil. Don't suppose you fancy borrowing my best of Bernard Manning video.. Some people need to get a life.
Oh right, so I'm a bigot now because I'm a realist. At no point in this thread have I made a derogatory comment about anyone's sexuality. I said Childs is a shit ref' and I stand by that, plenty of others have agreed with that.
He will end up getting abuse this coming season because of his poor performance, I'm sure he's had the same in the past only now he brought his sexuality to the forefront after apparently being openly gay anyway.
[QUOTE]"The way I've lived my life on social media, I'm pretty open about the fact I have a male partner," he says./QUOTE]
Like it or not, people will use that against him. That's not my view, but it is a fact of life at present, so stop trying to twist what I said to suit your agenda you pathetic little man/woman/shemale.
Dont care about his or anyones sexuality.
Every time ive seen him ref Saints at home he seems to not want to give us anything. The crowd get on at him and he digs his heels in even more.
Very frustrating.
In the interest of trying to find common ground to end the fractious discord in this thread, can we all agree that no matter how good or rubbish we think James Child's refereeing is, he's not anywhere near as sh*te or corrupt as Robert Hicks.
Regards,
Kofi Annan
Having just gone through this whole thread, in the last hour, I'm going to work my way backwards until I give up.
WA: I think we should all agree he's not as f-ing terrile as Robert Hicks but he's still not good. He's mid-level in a •••• poor set up.
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BB is it ok for someone who has a disability to make fun of themselves and other folk like them? Is it ok for them to make fun of the differences between them and people who don't have the same disability.
Just asking as there are plenty of comedians doing just that.
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Not players but I have 20-odd folk shouting at me daily, not once a week. I have more than 10 people analyse and review what I do. I don't have thousands of folk shouting at me as I walk to my office granted and no one knows me on social media.
That doesn't make James child good at his job or anyone's opinion of him less valid if it doesn't hit your criteria.
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Gray has said it all tremendously as always.
All I will add is that this thread is over 4 pages long and almost non of it has to do with JCs sexuality. That's not a pat on the back for any of us but shows that ultimately his sexuality doesn't affect how we see and treat him.
Shruggy shoulders emoji.
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Ok so you have never been out with a group of people with learning disabilities and had a group of other people laughing at us, imitating their behaviour and calling us Mongs. Upsetting some of us so much that some didn’t want to go out again.
But those people were just having fun and everything and everyone can be made fun of.
I realise now that when we got back to the minibus and adult people were in the tears, that I should have told them not to be so sensitive, other people have got to have fun and people like you should realise that going out into the wide world is just asking for abuse.
Thanks for educating me in this matter.
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I think some of us are aware of his personal life even before the BBC article and as you say I (and many others) could’nt care less. I do wonder why ref’s frequent social media though as its a magnet for idiots and leaves them susceptible to abuse from the odd village idiot. My problem is when those cases are then somehow extrapolated into a much bigger problem than they are and wider society ends up suffering sermons and moral lectures because of a few bell ends who noone listened to anyway.
I haven’t read all of this thread but will say that Nigel Owens, the retired Welsh Rugby Union ref, was probably one of the best referees I’ve seen in any sport and he is gay. Being gay does not stop anyone excelling at their job or at sport. I just wish that Rugby League had one ref of Owens’ calibre.