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    If Saints and Wigan carry on they way they both have and the end of the year

    Can anyone else live with them?

    As much as I want to beat Wigan. It is good to have the competition with them. They are gonna be a tough proposition with Bateman back.

    Saints are in a great position with new signings and youngsters pushing for places now.

    Does anyone else feel Saints and Wigan could be a class above next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGSaint View Post
    If Saints and Wigan carry on they way they both have and the end of the year

    Can anyone else live with them?

    As much as I want to beat Wigan. It is good to have the competition with them. They are gonna be a tough proposition with Bateman back.

    Saints are in a great position with new signings and youngsters pushing for places now.

    Does anyone else feel Saints and Wigan could be a class above next year?
    I think 2021 is definitely 100% Warrington’s year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickles Forearm View Post
    I think 2021 is definitely 100% Warrington’s year.
    Mark my words its their year. I heard Fitzpyrick has already taken out the copyright for 2021.
    Year of the Wolfs.

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    My take on ranking of our challengers

    Wigan
    Warrington

    Leeds
    Catalans

    Huddersfield
    Cas
    Hull

    Warrington could go either way IMO. Theres big potential there for them to underwhelm next season.

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    Bradford?

    The usual suspect will be there or thereabouts.
    I'm always puzzled by Hull though. I imagine them as a sleeping giant, but they never seem to really wake up!

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    Warrington and Leeds the obvious 2x
    Leeds can always do something but next year I just don't see it.

    Hull, will they ever have a consistent season?

    Salford I worry for now Watson has gone.
    Be really interesting to see how Huddersfield get on.

    Also for whatever reason think Cas may fall off a little next year

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    Think there’s still a lot of recruitment going on for next season. With the later start date and uncertainty that the clubs have faced I think the circus is still going. It’s interesting Wigan are trying to offload 3 or 4 so be interesting to see if they’re still trying to recruit as well. A lot will depend on if they can find a way to shuffle lumpy George Burgess our the door. Warringtons righteous morals with Gelling kicked in as soon as there wasn’t a trophy to be won (or they couldn’t figure out how to offload Widdop). Leeds will do their usual of “leaking” rumours they’re talking to the Australia national team only to sign some mate of Sinfields from Featherstone and Hull are the mystery that keeps on giving (much like Catalans).

    I’m happy Saints have done their recruitment early this year and seem to have been very effective. I wonder if we will see some cheeky bids for our players/ loans over the coming months as teams like Salford and Hull KR (and the mystery 12th team) become more desperate. Huddersfield seem to have decided to throw money around as well

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    I think it will be between us and Wigan, with Warrington pushing behind. I dont rate Leeds, they are too one dimensional and if you keep Hurrell quiet then you are likely to win, all their attacking play near the line seems based around him, either running through his opposite number or drawing players in for his winger. Hull, Catalan and Huddersfield are a complete lottery, if Cas start next season how they finished this one they will be crap, as for Hull kr, Walkefield and the 12th team i dint think they would be much, Salford are a complete mystery.

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    I think we might see Leeds stepping up a bit above Warrington if Longy has influence on Agar. Saints , Wigan and Warrington still the teams to beat,

    If our new signings are a success and we get Dodd, Simm and Welsby more game time we should be stronger more so if Percival is fully recovered, we've missed his attacking prowess this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGSaint View Post
    Warrington and Leeds the obvious 2x
    Leeds can always do something but next year I just don't see it.

    Hull, will they ever have a consistent season?

    Salford I worry for now Watson has gone.
    Be really interesting to see how Huddersfield get on.

    Also for whatever reason think Cas may fall off a little next year




    8th from 11 this year how far do you think they will fall?

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    It'd be a genuine shame if porky Georgie had to retire...

    ...and so freed up a chunk of salary cap for the scum.

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    Leeds are a bit of an unknown, depends a lot on how some of their younger players kick on as they’ve not made any signings I don’t think. Hull, Wire and Catalan have got the squads to challenge if they can keep key players fit and find a higher level of consistency. Post lockdown Saints and Wigan were head and shoulders above the rest though and with both teams strengthening it’s hard to look past those two sides. What will be key for us is how Thompson settles in. Paasi has a fairly simple job up the middle and Mata’utia will more than likely be a bench player. Taia has been excellent for us on that left hand side for several years now so how Thompson integrates in defence and attack will be crucial to how well we go next season, hopefully Percival gets a good pre season under his belt and comes back 100% as well.
    Forwards win games. The backs decide by how much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Waa Womble View Post
    Leeds are a bit of an unknown, depends a lot on how some of their younger players kick on as they’ve not made any signings I don’t think. Hull, Wire and Catalan have got the squads to challenge if they can keep key players fit and find a higher level of consistency. Post lockdown Saints and Wigan were head and shoulders above the rest though and with both teams strengthening it’s hard to look past those two sides. What will be key for us is how Thompson settles in. Paasi has a fairly simple job up the middle and Mata’utia will more than likely be a bench player. Taia has been excellent for us on that left hand side for several years now so how Thompson integrates in defence and attack will be crucial to how well we go next season, hopefully Percival gets a good pre season under his belt and comes back 100% as well.
    I actually think it’ll be Paasi who is the most decisive signing. If he settles in and turns out to be a really strong ball carrier then we’ll be difficult to live with, with both him and Walmsley in the 17. If he flops then we’ll have the same difficulty we sometimes had this year when we couldn’t get out of first gear when Walmsley was off.

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    I think we will go really well next year however a lot of it depends on how the overseas lads settle. I think Thompson will be fine, he will get stuck into the community activities, will love the fans and the atmospheres and he will be solid. It is the other two that I have my reservations over. The South Sea island lads can go two ways, you can get a diamond like Soliola or conversely you can get a FPN at Wigan who was the opposite of a wrecking ball and a complete flop.

    Mata'utia is an enigma for me. On paper we have got a great signing. At 24 he has many years ahead of him. However the other side of me worries why he is being let go at 24 and none of the other NRL clubs have picked him up. Unless he is desperate to travel around Europe like Paulo was and off sightseeing every other weekend.

    Dodd should be getting 12-15 games next season. At his age now, George Williams had played 58 games so he really needs to kick on. By all accounts Dodd is one of the best young talents to come through and at 15/16 was being talked about as one of the best ever young talents at that age, so he really needs a lot more game time next season.

    Wigan will be there again. They are a tough, well structured drilled team. They have Bateman back next year, plus some speed in Field, and their young lads have another years experience. Havard is some talent, potentially another Luke Thompson and they will also have Marshall back. It will be interesting to see if they can get George Burgess off their wage bill (maybe by medical retirement) then they may even have the money to buy another prop.

    Potentially Saints and Wigan could dominate like the Liverpool/City era now and formerly the Utd/Arsenal battles of the late 90s, early 2000s.

    Leeds and Warrington potentially could spoil the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reacher View Post
    Dodd should be getting 12-15 games next season. At his age now, George Williams had played 58 games so he really needs to kick on. By all accounts Dodd is one of the best young talents to come through and at 15/16 was being talked about as one of the best ever young talents at that age, so he really needs a lot more game time next season.
    Dodd would be my starting 7 next season. Big ask, but he is the future of the club, and he needs the game time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon Sexton View Post
    Dodd would be my starting 7 next season. Big ask, but he is the future of the club, and he needs the game time now.
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    Lomax Dodd
    Walmsley Roby Lees
    Thompson Bentley
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    Fages Mata’utia Paasi Amor

    Welsby LMS

    Would be my match day 19 for game 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon Sexton View Post
    Dodd would be my starting 7 next season. Big ask, but he is the future of the club, and he needs the game time now.
    I think most fans would like to see that, but in reality he may be introduced gradually into the team very much in a similar fashion to Welsby. We probably need to cherry pick which sequence of games we can risk having Dodd on the bench so that the likes of Dodd, Fages and Roby can share 160 mins (2 from 3) game time.

    The danger is that if he is thrown into the deep end and he has 3 consecutive poor games he will most likely be crucified on here. But I do expect him to be more prevalent towards the second half of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux View Post
    I actually think it’ll be Paasi who is the most decisive signing. If he settles in and turns out to be a really strong ball carrier then we’ll be difficult to live with, with both him and Walmsley in the 17. If he flops then we’ll have the same difficulty we sometimes had this year when we couldn’t get out of first gear when Walmsley was off.
    There was also in the last 3 games signs that Matty Lees was getting back to himself, bit more kg pre season and I reckon he will go up a notch next season.

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    Interested to see how Wigan line up in the key positions with French, Field, Smith, Hastings, Leuluai (has he re-signed?) and Powell. I think they’ll go in as very close second favourites and if we get the better of them throughout the year, we should go in to the play-offs as league leaders.

    I’m not bothered about Warrington. I think Price has about eight games to save his job. Their fans aren’t keen on him now and a poor start and he’s gone, I think. I think they’ve only got Inglis coming in and he’s not played for however long and technically retired on medical grounds (though that is questionable), so how he goes will be interesting. I think they could have something up their sleeve though if they manage to bin Widdop. That could change how they look somewhat but I’m not convinced in their pack beyond Clark and Philbin, who could well be off at the end of the year to Australia.

    As for the rest, most, on their day, can beat anyone but I don’t think any will be particularly consistent.
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    Haven't warrington signed that prop from London? he is supposedly a good prospect.

    They will be in the mix so will wigan, bateman is a really good player and they have some cracking youngsters plus good players in key positions in French and hastings

    They are still a bit undersized in the pack and unless Burgess finds some form , I can see us overpowering them in big games with our new additions.

    Leeds and Huddersfield should be good to watch, I think Watson is a top coach and he has some really good players there to work with

    Catalans can beat anyone on their day but can also lose to anyone , plus they seem to have a coach who thinks high tackles and swinging arms are perfectly legal so I'm hoping they flop


    Top four for me

    Saints,wigan,wire,Huddersfield In that order

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    There was also in the last 3 games signs that Matty Lees was getting back to himself, bit more kg pre season and I reckon he will go up a notch next season.
    Yeah, you're right. I've got high hopes for Lees next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux View Post
    I actually think it’ll be Paasi who is the most decisive signing. If he settles in and turns out to be a really strong ball carrier then we’ll be difficult to live with, with both him and Walmsley in the 17. If he flops then we’ll have the same difficulty we sometimes had this year when we couldn’t get out of first gear when Walmsley was off.
    If Paasi can provide some oomph when Al goes off then we will be very hard to stop. Like you say Al goes off and we drop several gears.

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    I'm trying to work out how Wigan have managed their cap. Fat Burgess, Hastings, French, Field, Gildart, Joe Burgess and Bateman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    I'm trying to work out how Wigan have managed their cap. Fat Burgess, Hastings, French, Field, Gildart, Joe Burgess and Bateman?
    Well Burgess (useless forward one ) is probably marquee as will be Bateman i would imagine. Not sure French would be on a huge amount as he wasn't a regular and the same probably applies to Field. Winger Burgess is moving on isn't he ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    I'm trying to work out how Wigan have managed their cap. Fat Burgess, Hastings, French, Field, Gildart, Joe Burgess and Bateman?
    Dont forget Hardaker, he’ll be on good money as well, they already have 2 Marquee players in Hastings and the fat pudding Burgess, how are they going to fit Bateman in as well, he’ll be on big money next year.

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