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    Default 21 man squad - Grand Final

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    1. Lachlan Coote, 2. Tommy Makinson, 3. Kevin Naiqama, 5. Regan Grace, 6. Jonny Lomax, 7. Theo Fages, 8. Alex Walmsley, 9. James Roby, 11. Zeb Taia, 12, Dom Peyroux, 13. LMS, 14. Morgan Knowles, 15. Matty Lees, 16. Kyle Amor, 19, Aaron Smith, 20. James Bentley, 22. Jack Welsby, 23. Joe Batchelor, 26, Josh Simm, 27, Lewis Dodd, 32. James Graham.

    Same 21 as last week.
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    I would be amazed if there are any changes to the 17 from last week. There were one or two calls for Aaron Smith after Friday’s game but I think with doubts over Walmsley’s fitness and the likelihood of it being a tough battle through the middle, having 4 forwards on the bench makes sense. I would’ve picked Simm for the Catalans game but Welsby did more than enough to warrant being picked again and fully deserves his spot.

    Coote
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    Naiqama
    Welsby
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Graham
    Bentley
    Taia
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    LMS
    Amor
    Lees
    Peyroux
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I would be amazed if there are any changes to the 17 from last week. There were one or two calls for Aaron Smith after Friday’s game but I think with doubts over Walmsley’s fitness and the likelihood of it being a tough battle through the middle, having 4 forwards on the bench makes sense. I would’ve picked Simm for the Catalans game but Welsby did more than enough to warrant being picked again and fully deserves his spot.

    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Welsby
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Graham
    Bentley
    Taia
    knowles

    LMS
    Amor
    Lees
    Peyroux

    Agree 100%. Same with the Simm / Welsby situation. I said after last weeks game he has to have earned his GF jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Div View Post
    Agree 100%. Same with the Simm / Welsby situation. I said after last weeks game he has to have earned his GF jersey.
    Thought he did very well last week but I think both edges will get tested more defensively tonight. Their attack seems to have gone back to how it was under Wane, really structured but they run their plays very well. That hook, line, sinker play they have where Leuluai gets the ball, shows it to Isa and Hardaker runs a short line with French out the back is really dangerous and if either Welsby or Grace either turn their shoulders in or leave the line to shut it down we’ll be in trouble. Really hope they both have good games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I would be amazed if there are any changes to the 17 from last week. There were one or two calls for Aaron Smith after Friday’s game but I think with doubts over Walmsley’s fitness and the likelihood of it being a tough battle through the middle, having 4 forwards on the bench makes sense. I would’ve picked Simm for the Catalans game but Welsby did more than enough to warrant being picked again and fully deserves his spot.

    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Welsby
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Graham
    Bentley
    Taia
    knowles

    LMS
    Amor
    Lees
    Peyroux
    I hope it is the same 17. Despite the earlier criticism Welsby did well last week, hope he keeps it up now.

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    Every player last week deserved to get the shirt for Friday, not one single player had a below par game. Need a good game from Jammer though to tip the scales our way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    Every player last week deserved to get the shirt for Friday, not one single player had a below par game. Need a good game from Jammer though to tip the scales our way.
    I agree with this. Bit tough on Aaron Smith but until we add another big prop we need size on the bench.

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    I hope its the same 17. I can see the argument for Smith on the bench but given that its a final (and Knowles can always move to 9 if needed) i think we can get 80 minutes out of Roby.

    BIG IF i was going to put a wild card on the bench i would be tempted to give Dodd the 17th jersey if nothing more than to get inside Lams head. No better way to cement his future as a top player than to throw him in a GF. Plus he would be a big foil for other players. When we played Salford a few months back you could see that Watson put a big emphasis on keeping Dodd quiet. The Salford team really had to be on their toes to nulify him.
    It won’t happen, but if im coaching and im confident the team can afford to carry a bench player, i would throw Dodd a shirt.
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    Still got a nagging doubt regarding big Al. Woolfe was very quick to say his injury was nothing without knowing really. Just wondering if he is playing mind games, I desperately hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    Every player last week deserved to get the shirt for Friday, not one single player had a below par game. Need a good game from Jammer though to tip the scales our way.
    I posted something very similar to this after the game. We normally have one that makes a couple of mistakes and one or two below par, but not last week. I hope Theo keeps getting the same height on his kicks so we can be up on French as he catches it.

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    I would bench Walmsley and bring him on after 20 mins or so, it will give the pies something to think about. They bring Clubb on we bring big Alex on.

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    Same as, keep a winning team.
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    We’d have been struggling without 4 forwards on the bench last week so can’t see us going with anything different this time out. Think Welsby keeps his place as well after pocketing Folau last week.
    Forwards win games. The backs decide by how much.

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    Same 17 for me..

    Only discussion point would be Smith or Dom on the bench, and Dom edges it

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    More of the same this week please lads, get that defence right, make sure we kick well on the last play and make sure regan and tommy get plenty of the ball

    I see flower is out injured so looks like mouth all mighty greenwood will come in , lets hope he's not so cocky post game

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    Default 21 man squad - Grand Final

    Walmsley definitely won’t be 100% fit. He’ll end up needing an operation after this game that’s for sure. However bearing in mind it’s the last game of the season and a very long off season, he’ll be strapped up, jabbed up and asked to play through the pain barrier.

    Your leg doesn’t just lock 3 times like his did. Hopefully we can get 40 mins out of him and it will be enough.

    Also I may be reading too much into this but the official account tweeted today that Walmsley “could’ make his 200th appearance. I wondered why they never said “will”

    It’s not like he won’t be selected if fit.


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    I am so nervous about this one. I have to be honest there is not a game I have wanted us to win more in a long time. If we can do it we will put a rising wigan team back in their box. If they win, and along with the good signings they made for next season, they could really kick on and be a force. If I have butterflys now, goodness knows how I will feel at kickoff.

    Hopefully the ref will not be a factor for the side that wins. I all of our players are not angels but I am really proud of the fact that overall our discipline is good and we play hard but fair. That being said Friday is not the time for shrinking violets. We can not be bullied. We need to Match them for aggression. Also if our half backs and kickers are taken out late we need to make a big deal out of it. I am not saying throw punches etc but our big guys got to make the point that they will not tolerate our wee guys getting taken late.

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    Not going to sleep tonight. Grand final nerves kicking in already

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    I will admit to be being a glass half full person. Being a Saints fan has been a joy but a rollercoaster we tend to lose as many finals as we win, and have lost more semi finals than Everton.

    I do believe we have the better team, and even with my negativity take us by 11-15 points. Lomax is due a really good game and Amor and LMS cannot be as bad as last time against them.

    Wigan have a strength in that mentally they are and always have been a win at any cost team and club and you underestimate that at your peril.

    We need to be no less than 4 behind at half time and we should be OK. They will try and blow us away in the first 30.

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    Hate the build up to a big game especially a night time kick off , always have always will.

    Hopefully the goons will have a man sent off early again

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    For me it rests on Walmsley. If he is ok we win if hes 80% we win if he goes off we are knackered. Lee's, LMS, Amor no hope without him. Graham has made no impact

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    Quote Originally Posted by col81 View Post
    For me it rests on Walmsley. If he is ok we win if hes 80% we win if he goes off we are knackered. Lee's, LMS, Amor no hope without him. Graham has made no impact

    Nailed on wigan will target his knee, what a poster on here call it before "bending the straw" or something, two men hold the guy and the third targets the knee /ankle joint


    If Big Al plays well , we tend to go well , I also want us to get the ball into the hands of our back 3 as much as possible, one on one our wingers and coote can beat any defender

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB1973 View Post
    Nailed on wigan will target his knee, what a poster on here call it before "bending the straw" or something, two men hold the guy and the third targets the knee /ankle joint


    If Big Al plays well , we tend to go well , I also want us to get the ball into the hands of our back 3 as much as possible, one on one our wingers and coote can beat any defender
    Everyone knows when AW is going to carry the ball in and everytime now he is gang tackled. I would like to see another forward running with him, one that now and again he can pass to just before impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by col81 View Post
    For me it rests on Walmsley. If he is ok we win if hes 80% we win if he goes off we are knackered. Lee's, LMS, Amor no hope without him. Graham has made no impact
    I think Amor does a good job, and so does LMS but i wouldn’t class him as a prop. Having Graham in the squad helps get the team fired up and it’s his big final push, as for Lees he offers nothing and looking at his stats last week they were dreadful, hardly any impact and five missed tackles. I’m hoping tonight he goes on and gets MOTM with his six tries.

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    The important thing tonight is that we don’t beat ourselves. They played really well when we played them a few weeks ago, probably their best game of the season so far and I thought we were a fair way off our best. However we were 6-4 up at half-time (and we gifted them that try really by not defending a kick) and were well in the game for 50 minutes or so. Second half we knocked on at the ruck, we kicked the ball out for 7 tackles, we knocked on from a drop out, we missed some poor tackles and they were really clinical and took advantage of those mistakes. We need to take those basic, concentration errors out of our game tonight and if we do that we’ll give ourselves a good chance.

    I think we’ll need to use the ball a fair bit more than we did last time out and play with a bit more shape. They’ve always been good at defending tight and slowing the ruck down so I think it’s important that we get outside those first three defenders. Short passes between the forwards, bringing Taia and Bentley back on the inside and having options at the line will stand us in good stead as well.

    We kicked early in the set a few times against Catalan and I think we might do the same tonight, particularly in behind Bibby. Hardaker runs hard but if we can kick early, isolate French with a good kick chase and put pressure on Bibby, Hardaker and Burgess to carry in yardage I think we might be able to get some field position from that. Our kick chase was really good last week and it’ll need to be again or French will punish us.
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