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    Default Man of Steel Awards

    To be broadcast live on Sky Sports on Monday 23rd November at 7pm. Five nominees for Man of Steel this year:
    Aidan Sezer
    Lachlan Coote
    Bevan French
    Liam Farrell
    Paul McShane

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    Any award for player of the year that doesn't have Alex Walmsley on a shortlist isn't worth paying any attention to.

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    Liam Farrell... dear me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickles Forearm View Post
    Liam Farrell... dear me
    Very underrated player IMO - was magnificent against us the other week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheVee View Post
    Any award for player of the year that doesn't have Alex Walmsley on a shortlist isn't worth paying any attention to.
    Shocking list. Best forward by a long way.
    The only one I could vote for apart from Coote is McShane and he is a bit of a grub at times.

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    I cant understand how McShane and Farrell have made their way onto this list. Good to see Coote getting some recognition, but no Walmsley is just a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheVee View Post
    Very underrated player IMO - was magnificent against us the other week.
    Agreed, he turns up most games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheVee View Post
    Very underrated player IMO - was magnificent against us the other week.
    Been a belting asset to them over the years


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    I'm assuming that these are the 5 top points scorers from the weekly matches? Strange then that French & Farrell are up there having split the vote. Assuming Sezer wins it as he'll have scored top points repeatedly.

    Have I got the process correct?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bad Les View Post
    I cant understand how McShane and Farrell have made their way onto this list. Good to see Coote getting some recognition, but no Walmsley is just a joke.
    Because its based on the weekly man of steel points total. McShane stands out in a shit side so often picks up the maximum 3 points. Its a stupid system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkieTalkie View Post
    I'm assuming that these are the 5 top points scorers from the weekly matches? Strange then that French & Farrell are up there having split the vote. Assuming Sezer wins it as he'll have scored top points repeatedly.

    Have I got the process correct?


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    By my observation then Coote must have scored more weekly points than Walmsley which I find surprising given his changed role from last year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkieTalkie View Post
    By my observation then Coote must have scored more weekly points than Walmsley which I find surprising given his changed role from last year.


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    He has, I think Walmsley was close to the 5, likewise Sam Tomkins also. Aidan Sezer is top and undoubtably the favourite

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkieTalkie View Post
    By my observation then Coote must have scored more weekly points than Walmsley which I find surprising given his changed role from last year.


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    Coote missed a couple at the start of the season when we were terrible though and its on points per game played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheVee View Post
    Very underrated player IMO - was magnificent against us the other week.
    Correct
    He's been superb this season

    Farrell, 3rd for most tackles, 2nd for metres made, 4th for tackle busts, 4th for clean breaks, 2nd for number of carries and 5th for marker tackles.

    I would have had Walmsley in the five and also Sam Powell who for me has been Wigans player of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Waa Womble View Post
    Coote missed a couple at the start of the season when we were terrible though and its on points per game played.
    Ah I see, still strange AlexW not our top point scorer by any measure.


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    I thought that when I saw his name couldn’t go much lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr chips View Post
    I thought that when I saw his name couldn’t go much lower.
    I don't think any of them are that tall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Waa Womble View Post
    Coote missed a couple at the start of the season when we were terrible though and it’s on points per game played.
    Am I misunderstanding? If it's on points per game played, and someone played one game and got 3 points, then they would have averaged 3 points per game? Why would not playing games affect Coote. If it was total points over the season missing a couple could affect him. Though I admit I do not really know how the system works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Am I misunderstanding? If it's on points per game played, and someone played one game and got 3 points, then they would have averaged 3 points per game? Why would not playing games affect Coote. If it was total points over the season missing a couple could affect him. Though I admit I do not really know how the system works.
    My mistake about Coote. If you miss a game it doesnt matter, the points you earn are divided by the number of games your team has played.

    The revised scoring system is calculated by dividing the number of points attained by the player by the number of games played by that players team.

    Man of Steel points picked up by players against Toronto Wolfpack have been removed.

    In line with the changes made to the league table, teams must play a minimum of 15 games for a player from that team to be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Waa Womble View Post
    My mistake about Coote. If you miss a game it doesn’t matter, the points you earn are divided by the number of games your team has played.

    ‘The revised scoring system is calculated by dividing the number of points attained by the player by the number of games played by that player’s team.

    Man of Steel points picked up by players against Toronto Wolfpack have been removed.

    In line with the changes made to the league table, teams must play a minimum of 15 games for a player from that team to be considered.’
    How on earth is Mc Shane on there ? Totaly overated imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mufcsaint View Post
    How on earth is Mc Shane on there ? Totaly overated imo.
    As mentioned before, mediocre players stand out in a shit team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Waa Womble View Post
    My mistake about Coote. If you miss a game it doesn’t matter, the points you earn are divided by the number of games your team has played.

    ‘The revised scoring system is calculated by dividing the number of points attained by the player by the number of games played by that player’s team.

    Man of Steel points picked up by players against Toronto Wolfpack have been removed.

    In line with the changes made to the league table, teams must play a minimum of 15 games for a player from that team to be considered.’
    Thanks. I've just learned something.

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    I think French will take it with Coote and Sezer close behind. Coote is the better all round fullback but French's attacking play is lethal and gets noticed more. Farrell's work goes unnoticed alot of the time bit not MOS for me. It's laughable that McShane is not there and Walmsley isn't. Struggle to see what McShane's done this season. Tompkins can count himself unlucky. Been great this season for Catalans, just hopefully not friday

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    Is the decision already made based on the points accrued in the season matches (plus the GF run in) or do they revert to some other way of selecting the winner from the final nominees?


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    Unlike a lot of Saints fans, I rate Farrell very highly. I'm always worried when I see him with the ball. He runs hard and passes well. I'm very surprised Alex isn't there, but then that's the way the selections have been made

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