I believe so, there's little evidence of him doing anything effective with the backs whatsoever. If he is it doesn't show. To be honest he lost me very early on, nearly immediately and I haven't changed my mind, in fact I'm more resolute in my thinking. I'm concerned about what plan he has to beat Wigan on Friday without his main steamroller on the pitch that's why I hope Roby, Coote, Lomax et al work something out. I've no particular info, simply what I see & feel.
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Well this thread has gone in an interesting direction.
I think I followed the argument that when we play well it's down to the players rebelling but the continued speciation about Woolfe's personality and that he is arrogant is simply groundless. The players do a good job of hiding it if he really had "lost the dressing room".
However the view that Ian Watson is the answer is an interesting one. I know which of the sides last night played to most open rugby and it wasn't the one coached by Watson.
Well this thread has gone in an interesting direction.
I think I followed the argument that when we play well it's down to the players rebelling but the continued speciation about Woolfe's personality and that he is arrogant is simply groundless. The players do a good job of hiding it if he really had "lost the dressing room".
However the view that Ian Watson is the answer is an interesting one. I know which of the sides last night played to most open rugby and it wasn't the one coached by Watson.
Does the uber conservative style come exclusively from Woolf?
There's a big boot room and a CEO who coached a limited style himself and propped up KC for a long while.
Has Woolf forced limited upon us or did Holbrook dilute and expand a limited style encouraged by the existing coaching team?
It's an interesting one.
Woolf likes his MMA and middle channel but he has done well to completely implement this from scratch in 10 months.
Woolf is a figure head , the boot room has a big say.
Woolf isn't perfect and we played a more enjoyable brand of rugby under Holbrook but we're top of the league, have the best attack (by a mile) and have the best defence.
To suggest he has lost the dressing room or to get rid is absurd quite frankly.
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I don't know. What I do know is we didn't play like that last season with almost identical personnel and comment on what I see. I don't think we're "uber" conservative but we are more conservative. What's the biggest change? The coach of course.
I may be venting a bit as I have a right downer on the game at the moment but I know what I'm watching.
For me he seems to apply different styles at different times which surely is a good sign when it comes to adaptability.
The GF is normally a tight affair due to the weather in early October & with it now being played a month later this is going to be a big factor from now on.
If we do go on to win the GF I think it will be a bigger achievement than last year because the way we played against Castleford prelockdown I was under the impression that he was very close to losing the dressing room at that point in time.
When do we hear about Walmsley’s appeal outcome?
Downgraded to a Grade B, misses 1 match
No probs mate I think you make a good contribution to the forum. I just don't 'get' him I'm afraid. The whole set up and style infuriates me and I'm trying to reign in my comments but I'm struggling with it. Of course I want success but not at the expense of our heritage as I see it. I'll leave it there now.
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He did beat Australia with it with Tonga. Perhaps it doesn't look as good with us because although our pack is big, it isn't monstrous.
I'm a bit mixed to be honest. Can't really argue with the points tally and the for and against but the league is terrible. It's really poor.
Walmsley reduced to 1 match so misses Wigan
I think there is some truth in that initially he came across as a bloke perhaps not as approachable as Holbrook with a monotone image. But at the very beginning he explained what he expected from the team and he did say he wanted the side a very tough team to beat, I would say he had done that in a short space of time by way of the game with the Roosters.
Coming out of lockdown Woolf looked more relaxed and his briefings were more detailed, I think the players bought into his pattern of play and we saw quite a lot of pressure put onto the opposition. Yes we did have the occasional poor execution game but we've been like that for decades whatever coach we had at the time.
This year must be one of the most difficult seasons for a new coach to establish himself in Superleague, a 10 game winning run in the league tells me he is doing a good job overall.
In another world.....he inherited a Champion squad who strolled their way to the title & immediately changed the whole modus operandi, he introduced a single Plan A that he hasn't deviated from, his offering is not entertaining, he can't seem to manage a change within a game, he is ultra cautious (Leeds team), he is naive (Salford team & JW captain apparently), by end of Friday we could be 3rd in the table (see other thread).
Lots of opinions, this is mine.
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