Got to feel sorry for the ref, all that effort and he went home with no points.
Got to feel sorry for the ref, all that effort and he went home with no points.
Great game. Wouldn’t have begrudged KR winning that, thought they were brilliant in defence.
St Helens Rugby League Football Club
We'll have to play better than that v Warrington
We have all been praising Woolf since the restart. But today all we are doing is back to driving up the middle. Is he returning to type? Also we seem to have completely forgotten how to•offload. The number of times Knowles has taken the ball, made metres then been tackled without passing ( often because he had no support) was incredible.Bentley has been a machine in tackling the past couple of weeks, but he offers no running threat. Naiqama sometime runs great lines but what else does he offer? Simm, not had that much ball, but he looks a natural at centre, Welsby, playing out of position but growing in confidence every week.
I think the ref has made a couple iffy calls for disallowed trys, but he has kept the game flowing, and not frightened of giving 6 restarts.• Not a high bar, but Ben Proe, way better than the rest of the SKY commentators
Naiqama hasn’t been bad at all for me. I certainly wouldn’t replace him with Simm, who looked defensively fragile today.
Something that it’s easy to take for granted is what a good set of defensive decision makers our starting back line is. Take a couple of starters out and replace them with kids like today and cracks start to appear.
Still hate golden point, simply because the loser gets nothing despite drawing after 80.
Saying that, I’ve never seen a team make it easier in GP than Hull KR. They had the ball in our half twice in golden point and didn’t even take one shot at goal. That’s just daft.
I think that’s really harsh on Simm. He had one poor read which lead to the HKR third try but that’s the only criticism all night for him. You could say the same for Fages and their first try (which was a much worse read!)
For one reason or another the attack just didn’t click today, and HKR did everything in their power to keep the momentum even (and we’re allowed to). I think both Welbsy’s disallowed fries were very harsh (and would have been given on any other day) and bar the dropped kick did really well again (wind is a one of mitigation I suppose).
I think it’s one of those games to take the points (percentage?) and draw a line under it. No one was particularly on top form and we have to focus on the basics this week and turn it around. We did it after the Cas game where we didn’t quite click and am sure we can again (are we suffering from training and playing on the same ground?)
I didn’t mean it as a pointed criticism of him - more of the idea that he should be picked ahead of Naiqama. He did a decent job but I thought he had a handful of poor reads, not all of which led directly to problems. Taia was all over the place too, to be fair - it looked like an edge combination that wasn’t used to defending together.
We might have thought the ref was a bit against us, but what must Hudds have thought of Mikalauskus, who all but wore a Leeds shirt, giving three 6-agains in a minute (a record?). They'll be glad he's had to be replaced by Child.
If we beat Warrington next week the flat performances of a few individuals tonight will soon be forgotten.
screaming in the family corner, scaring the kiddies
I never suggested that we were back to KC. We never played at tonight's pace and intensity during that period. But we have certainly gone back to playing up the middle. I haven't seen any statistics tonight, but I would like to see the number of offloads compared to the first 2-3 games after the restart. Other than that,•I offered an opinion on a couple of individuals,•some positive and some negative as I saw it. I'm not sure what it is you think I should not start
Strange game, I didn’t enjoy it at all.
As well as HKR defended, we didn’t challenge them enough on the edges and we didn’t have enough players in motion to confuse the defence. It was pretty easy for them to defend in their own 20.
We need to sharpen up next week.
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Thought we missed the go forward of LMS tonight, Lees and Bentley pretty poor in that department. Graham got some really tough calls from the ref. Also Fages not taking on the line in saying that we were missing a lot of support play.
To be honest i thought fitness played a part. After the first 10 mins we looked tired and as if we just wanted the game over with. Few of the senior players looked tired to quick out their tonight
Thought the game was terrible. We were awful, KR were not much better with the ref being even worst. The game should have been over in the first 20 minutes if not for poor composure leading to poor decisions and errors. Graham losing the ball first tackle and Walmsley trying to play a cut out pass on their line soon after were highlights. The sooner Golden Point is done away with the better.
Just an awful game.
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