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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    I don't really get this "bubble in a pub" it had good intentions at first but it gets flouted a lot now, the new guidelines of pubs having to shut at 10-00pm is ridiculous are they saying Covid only comes out after 10-00pm.

    What if this drags on and you can't attend games in sporting stadia for the 2021, what do people think about that, I'm usually a glass half full person but not so on this possibility.
    What happens to 10pm when the clocks go back


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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkieTalkie View Post
    What happens to 10pm when the clocks go back


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues Gallery View Post
    It'll be contractual, just as they played the FA Cup Final and League play offs there.
    They were both a joke as well, but at least both games involved London clubs so the travelling wasn’t an issue. I see no reason to tell two northern RL clubs to travel down to London for a Cup Final in an empty stadium.

    There is still a very weird situation where people are acting as if stadiums are special, when it’s the people inside them that make them special. Stadiums are merely buildings, and they are nothing more than famous buildings with no soul when they are empty. This attempt to recreate things without fans is very strange, and the PL clubs insisting that their remaining games last season were played at their grounds baffled me, given that home advantage means nothing if the place is empty. It’s why I’ve not been bothered about RL games being played at neutral sites, because it makes no difference really.

    I suppose the BBC may want to have their day at Wembley for the CC Final, but what difference does it make if the place is empty. The bigger the ground, the bigger the problem looks on TV. Watching games in empty 15,000 capacity RL grounds has been just about watchable, but PL games have been hard to watch in 50,000 seat stadiums, and watching a CC Final at an empty Wembley merely rams it home how big and how severe the issue is.

    Interestingly, from watching NFL over the weekend, the Dallas Cowboys had over 20,000 at their home game on Sunday, and two of the Florida teams (despite high levels of Covid cases) have both had five figure crowds at their games. I still think the no fans ruling is too severe here, and the inconsistency in telling people to go to pubs and restaurants but not to sports grounds is stupid. Spending 30 minutes doing a weekly shop in a crowded Tesco is more of a hazard than spending 2 hours socially distanced outside at a ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    Balls. There goes my regular spot.

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    Used it a couple of times. Was well handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post

    From the article:

    "They believe demolishing it will create opportunities to make the Sankey Canal more visible for the rest of the town centre"

    Yep, just what the canal needs - easier access for the knobheads to throw shopping trollies into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    From the article:

    "They believe demolishing it will create opportunities to make the Sankey Canal more visible for the rest of the town centre"

    Yep, just what the canal needs - easier access for the knobheads to throw shopping trollies into it.
    We could end up being the new Venice of the North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge View Post
    We could end up being the new Venice of the North.
    I'll have a pint of what you've been drinking! the mind boggles, taking a gondola along the hotties from The Range towards the ground being rowed by lads in striped vests singing various Saints anthems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woolyback View Post
    I'll have a pint of what you've been drinking! the mind boggles, taking a gondola along the hotties from The Range towards the ground being rowed by lads in striped vests singing various Saints anthems
    Stopping at the Steve Prescott Bridge of Sighs named after our next defeat by Warrington in a cup game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge View Post
    We could end up being the new Venice of the North.
    St Helens has more pondlife.

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    The figures for this region make depressing reading:



    The 5,723 cases in England by region


    North West +2,215
    Yorkshire and The Humber +762
    London +584
    West Midlands +572
    North East +576
    East Midlands +300
    South East +299
    East of England +209
    South West +181

    25 cases were not assigned to a region



    The top 10 for new cases announced today


    Liverpool +264 (2 cases are from specimens dated beyond day 7)
    Manchester +240 (4 cases are from specimens dated beyond day 7)
    Birmingham +232 (1 case is from a specimen dated beyond day 7)
    Bradford +166
    Leeds +132 (3 cases are from specimens dated beyond day 7)
    Bolton +126
    Newcastle upon Tyne +119
    Sefton +113
    Wirral +103 (3 cases are from specimens dated beyond day 7)
    Rochdale +92 (1 false positive case also removed)


    All cases were reported between September 18th and 24th unless stated in brackets


    33 areas reported 1 or no new cases up from 28 yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentishBarry View Post
    Oh I'm well aware of the history mate, social and otherwise.
    As for books, try 'The Petition' by Ray Gent. I was with him outside the House of Commons when he handed the actual petition in.
    There's no way I'm trying to rewrite anything (Webbo), and I certainly don't 'love' RU!
    It just gets a bit silly when some try to portray all RU fans as toffs. Just as daft as saying we're all a bunch of flat capped pigeon fanciers with whippets!

    If RU are going to be allowed to let fans in before us, then it's more likely down to their organisation being a little bit more 'professional' than ours!

    Edit. Forgot to say that the last grouse shooters I saw looked like a David Brent-esque office jolly!


    On the subject of media bias, more subtle bias from the BBC on their website. They list a whole load of sports and the Covid restrictions that apply to 'grassroots' playing of each.

    They include netball, the American sport of basketball, tennis, swimming and, of course rugby union (just surprised they didn't include rowing). For each, they include a link to the governing organisation.

    Two things:

    1. No mention of rugby league.

    2. They add the 'union' to 'rugby' when it suits that sport (ie, they could easily have just had a 'rugby' heading and included links to both the RFU and RFL, but chose to make the distinction and exclude rugby league full stop)


    It's subtle, yet so very persistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    On the subject of media bias...
    I was kind of hoping that the move to Salford would make the BBC less 'London centric'.
    There has been some evidence of that, but we do still seem to fall under the radar, and do get ignored at times.
    I don't know if this is deliberate bias. I think it did exist, but I'm not so sure these days. I think it's more down to lazy journalism.

    One issue that does annoy me is the 'rugby' thing!
    I still don't understand how the RU got away with the branding of the 'Rugby' World Cup a few years back, or why our lot didn't object to it, or even challenge it through the courts. Maybe they did object, or just didn't care?

    Perhaps we need another petition?

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    No fans at outdoor sports venues like rugby, football, cricket grounds, but big audiences not observing social distancing are allowed in the London Palladium for a classical music concert. This was last night:



    https://twitter.com/ShentonStage/sta...69981871063041

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    Was that some king of trial event Webbo?

    I think it is now safe to say we wont be seeing any RL in the flesh this season. Bit gutted not to see Jammer at least one more time (unless of course he decides to go around once more!)

    Those couple of games we did attend at home have worked out very expensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentishBarry View Post
    I was kind of hoping that the move to Salford would make the BBC less 'London centric'.
    There has been some evidence of that, but we do still seem to fall under the radar, and do get ignored at times.
    I don't know if this is deliberate bias. I think it did exist, but I'm not so sure these days. I think it's more down to lazy journalism.

    One issue that does annoy me is the 'rugby' thing!
    I still don't understand how the RU got away with the branding of the 'Rugby' World Cup a few years back, or why our lot didn't object to it, or even challenge it through the courts. Maybe they did object, or just didn't care?

    Perhaps we need another petition?
    The RFL didn't register is a trademark back in 1954. I think you're right though we should have challenged it or at least kicked up a fuss about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    No fans at outdoor sports venues like rugby, football, cricket grounds, but big audiences not observing social distancing are allowed in the London Palladium for a classical music concert. This was last night:

    https://twitter.com/ShentonStage/sta...69981871063041
    To be fair, I think they are social distancing. I seem to remember some theatres taking out every other row of seats, which I think has happened here. Plus, when you book in your group, the system automatically blocks out seats next to you. You can also see that in the picture.
    It is puzzling though why they think it can't be done in an outdoor sports stadium! Maybe it's a behaviour thing? Not much shouting or singing along done to classical music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues Gallery View Post
    The RFL didn't register is a trademark back in 1954. I think you're right though we should have challenged it or at least kicked up a fuss about it.
    Exactly!
    It's probably too late now, and maybe it doesn't really matter, but I get the feeling that we're slowly losing our identity to the wider world because of this sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentishBarry View Post
    To be fair, I think they are social distancing. I seem to remember some theatres taking out every other row of seats, which I think has happened here. Plus, when you book in your group, the system automatically blocks out seats next to you. You can also see that in the picture.
    It is puzzling though why they think it can't be done in an outdoor sports stadium! Maybe it's a behaviour thing? Not much shouting or singing along done to classical music!
    Leaving a theatre involves lots of crowded spaces, sometimes for prolonged periods, unless of course they let them out row by row. I think I’d feel safer in the fresh air of a sports ground than in a theatre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentishBarry View Post
    Exactly!
    It's probably too late now, and maybe it doesn't really matter, but I get the feeling that we're slowly losing our identity to the wider world because of this sort of thing.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suttoner View Post
    Leaving a theatre involves lots of crowded spaces, sometimes for prolonged periods, unless of course they let them out row by row. I think I’d feel safer in the fresh air of a sports ground than in a theatre.
    I would imagine that there would have to be some sort of controlled exit as you are right about normally crowded spaces when leaving most theatres, even when they are half empty!
    Totally agree with you about sports grounds. It should be dead easy to maintain all the suggested controls...If people follow them!
    Maybe the authorities just feel that theatre goers are more likely to comply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues Gallery View Post
    The RFL didn't register is a trademark back in 1954. I think you're right though we should have challenged it or at least kicked up a fuss about it.
    If you look at trademark listings there are hundreds of rugby trademarks by both codes. I think the RFL just dropped the ball on that one.

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    I think the behaviour of sports fans is the factor here. Not negatively but in terms of singing, chanting, noise, etc, there’s probably more chance of stuff spreading. And given you can take a mask off when you’re drinking and eating that means loads will be supping ale and chatting away whilst shouting at the ref to get em onside etc.

    I think it’s stupid that we can go to supermarkets but not stadiums, but I think that’s the reason why. I’ve been to the cinema in Manchester in the last fortnight and felt very safe, but it’s a quiet and static audience of people which it’ll never be at a ground. But I think if people are checked going in, if people are socially distanced and if the right rules are in place we have to get back to some form of life, and that includes supporting our clubs in person. Life is grim right now.

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