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    The RFL have announced some players have been suspended for breach of Covid protocols, the article is in the link below;

    https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2020/08/2...vid-protocols/

    One of the players, Jackson Hastings, played twice during his suspension period...

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    Haha retrospectively banning players over a period when they played matches is peak rugby league

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pyle View Post
    Haha retrospectively banning players over a period when they played matches is peak rugby league
    I swear the RFL are the single most incompetent organisation I have ever known. Complete and utter laughing stock.
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    I wonder if Jackson Hastings will have to pay back Papa John's for all the free post-match pizza he ate while suspended?

    On a more serious note ... WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pyle View Post
    Haha retrospectively banning players over a period when they played matches is peak rugby league
    He does play for Wigan

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    So could someone explain to me what sanctions these players have actually had? I could have sworn Hastings played against Wakey and Leeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge View Post
    So could someone explain to me what sanctions these players have actually had? I could have sworn Hastings played against Wakey and Leeds.

    Hastings - fined some pocket change and a retrospective ban that he played through anyway.

    Farcical. But, like, it's wi*an.
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    Wonder what would have happened if any of these players had spread the virus to other players as a result of their actions? It could have ground the whole competition to a halt.

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    Today really is own goal day for the RFL. Between this and the pizza afair it's egg on their face

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    You would think breaking Covid Protocols would be a serious matter in the same way Football and Cricket have actioned any breaches, not the RFL. They would have been better not mentioning anything instead of confirming there idiotic ignorance of their own operational rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux View Post
    I wonder if Jackson Hastings will have to pay back Papa John's for all the free post-match pizza he ate while suspended?

    On a more serious note ... WTF?
    SLE “rugby league is a collision sport that demands peak athleticism and nutrition...”

    Cut to Wigan star troughing a pizza after the match.

    You couldn't make it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pyle View Post
    Haha retrospectively banning players over a period when they played matches is peak rugby league
    Genuinely not sure whether to laugh or cry at this - you could not make it up!

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    I'm completely baffled today, it's 1 April surely.

    He's been suspended in the past, for a time period when he actually played games? Does this mean he can show up at Wigan and train today because his suspension is up?

    I will be using this rule in future if anyone accuses me of anything. I will simply state that I told myself off and banned myself from doing it again for the two weeks just gone, and therefore I've learnt my lesson and can continue doing it from today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray77 View Post
    I'm completely baffled today, it's 1 April surely.

    He's been suspended in the past, for a time period when he actually played games? Does this mean he can show up at Wigan and train today because his suspension is up?

    I will be using this rule in future if anyone accuses me of anything. I will simply state that I told myself off and banned myself from doing it again for the two weeks just gone, and therefore I've learnt my lesson and can continue doing it from today.
    Ive had a bit more of a thought about this, this has the potential to open up a massive can of worms, all it takes is one club to complain about the pies having played someone who was ineligible and the whole thing gets blown up. If that happens then the RFL have made a rod for their own back and have no option but to dock points based on them playing an ineligible player. I’d be very surprised if Hetherington isnt thinking at that already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Ive had a bit more of a thought about this, this has the potential to open up a massive can of worms, all it takes is one club to complain about the pies having played someone who was ineligible and the whole thing gets blown up. If that happens then the RFL have made a rod for their own back and have no option but to dock points based on them playing an ineligible player. I’d be very surprised if Hetherington isnt thinking at that already.
    Everyone should make an issue of it because if I've read it correctly (and it's awfully worded) you don't actually need to obey any of the protocols because if you get the suspension it'll probably be for a time period that has been and gone. I keep thinking I'm missing something here because this is too daft for words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray77 View Post
    Everyone should make an issue of it because if I've read it correctly (and it's awfully worded) you don't actually need to obey any of the protocols because if you get the suspension it'll probably be for a time period that has been and gone. I keep thinking I'm missing something here because this is too daft for words.
    Agree completely, i was thinking a bit more about the results it could effect, but you are absolutely right, it does read as you can breach the protocols and get off scot free, all it takes is a few players doing that and getting infected to bring the season to a halt again. Realistically Wigan should lose the points gained in the games Hastings was ineligible for or he should be serving his ban over the next 2 weeks, there really isnt any other option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Agree completely, i was thinking a bit more about the results it could effect, but you are absolutely right, it does read as you can breach the protocols and get off scot free, all it takes is a few players doing that and getting infected to bring the season to a halt again. Realistically Wigan should lose the points gained in the games Hastings was ineligible for or he should be serving his ban over the next 2 weeks, there really isnt any other option.
    It's tough on clubs involved if they aren't aware of any protocol violations and if the players test negative when they're around the club. If players want to do what they want it's hard to blame the clubs who are likely doing everything right when the players are onsite. I doubt any clubs would willingly play a player if they were aware he'd broken the protocols, both through fear that they'd caught aiding and abetting him, and also down to the health risks involved. So, provided we think that clubs are acting in the spirit of it all it has to be the player who gets done. But what protocols has he broken? How has this come to light? Who found out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray77 View Post
    It's tough on clubs involved if they aren't aware of any protocol violations and if the players test negative when they're around the club. If players want to do what they want it's hard to blame the clubs who are likely doing everything right when the players are onsite. I doubt any clubs would willingly play a player if they were aware he'd broken the protocols, both through fear that they'd caught aiding and abetting him, and also down to the health risks involved. So, provided we think that clubs are acting in the spirit of it all it has to be the player who gets done. But what protocols has he broken? How has this come to light? Who found out?
    I get that, and you are right it is tough on clubs having to deal with this, and a bit unfair to punish them for it, but they have still benefited from Hastings playing while he should have been ineligible, whether they were aware of it or not is a minor detail. Do i think the Pies should be punished for this, probably not, but Hastings should have to serve his suspension properly, otherwise what is the point of having the system in place anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray77 View Post
    It's tough on clubs involved if they aren't aware of any protocol violations and if the players test negative when they're around the club. If players want to do what they want it's hard to blame the clubs who are likely doing everything right when the players are onsite. I doubt any clubs would willingly play a player if they were aware he'd broken the protocols, both through fear that they'd caught aiding and abetting him, and also down to the health risks involved. So, provided we think that clubs are acting in the spirit of it all it has to be the player who gets done. But what protocols has he broken? How has this come to light? Who found out?
    Reading twitter it appears that it was to do with social distancing when he was showing off a special pair of boots he had made to raise awareness of leukemia in a 13 year old girl (Salford supporter). The family had asked for his help. The "tweet" was from the young girls mum or realeion of hers.

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    Wigan Warriors CherriesWhite circle
    @WiganWarriorsRL

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    Red heart On Sunday, Jackson Hastings will be wearing a special pair of boots. They represent Emily - a young
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    fan who is currently fighting leukaemia.

    Clapping hands sign After the game, Jackson will personally deliver the boots to her.

    Class,
    @JackoHastings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    I get that, and you are right it is tough on clubs having to deal with this, and a bit unfair to punish them for it, but they have still benefited from Hastings playing while he should have been ineligible, whether they were aware of it or not is a minor detail. Do i think the Pies should be punished for this, probably not, but Hastings should have to serve his suspension properly, otherwise what is the point of having the system in place anyway?
    Agreed, but a 14 day suspension is ridiculous even if it started today. If you break Covid protocols you are asked to isolate for 14 days, so any punishment shouldn't simply match what he should have done anyway as a precaution. It should run from today and be far more than 14 days, because once we start having punishments that merely mirror health guidelines it makes the punishment irrelevant.

    Imagine if we were a sport that people actually paid attention to, this would be really bad for the reputation of the game. Someone breaks Covid protocol on the 7 August, plays two games in the top division inside the 14 day isolation period, gets caught and then gets suspended from the 8-21 August, on 24 August! Nothing in that press release even refers to the fact that a player broke protocol and then played two games soon after, with potentially ruinous consequences for the sport. Imagine coming back from Spain today, going into work for the next 3 weeks then your firm finding out you'd been to Spain in the middle of September, deciding to suspend you from 24 August-7 September but saying it was fine to come in today, your suspension is up. You'd think they were incompetent idiots, and your workmates would love you I bet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Ive had a bit more of a thought about this, this has the potential to open up a massive can of worms, all it takes is one club to complain about the pies having played someone who was ineligible and the whole thing gets blown up. If that happens then the RFL have made a rod for their own back and have no option but to dock points based on them playing an ineligible player. I’d be very surprised if Hetherington isnt thinking at that already.
    Hopefully Eammon has been on the phone to him getting him wound up to make a song and dance out of it. I read it briefly earlier and didn't realise it was retrospective, absolutely shocking carry on.

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    I've just thought, 5 games for copping a hold of someones swingers but breaking Covid protocol is OK? RFL logic at it's finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    I've just thought, 5 games for copping a hold of someones swingers but breaking Covid protocol is OK? RFL logic at it's finest.
    Can we count the games he missed due to his shoulder injury at the start of the season as part of the ban? He's already missed the games so might as well count them as suspended games.
    Apparently time of the offence or actually missing games doesn't appear to be of any consequence as to when the ban actually occurrs. It's getting a bit like watching Back to The Future II, Men In Black III or Hot Tub Time Machine, I'm confused as to which timeline i'm in at present tho? Is this the one where sponsorship is done for goods/services rather than actual ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    Hopefully Eammon has been on the phone to him getting him wound up to make a song and dance out of it. I read it briefly earlier and didn't realise it was retrospective, absolutely shocking carry on.
    There has been some very average things donE in British Rugby League over the last few years, but the last 24 hours takes the cake, firstly a sponsorship that is so low rent it’s something from amateur sport and then a banning policy which has allowed someone to play in the period they should have been banned for. I have mates in Australia who text me today slating rugby league in this country as small time and low rent, and honestly i cant defend it.
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    So true, does any one think the RFL will do anything about it. Everyone is sayingwigan didn’t know, for God’s sake do the clubs and the RFL not communicate with one another. This is a pandemic we are talking about not something trivial. For gods sake will someone take control . What a laughing stock we are.

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