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    Potential 8 game ban What do people think? I can't see how anyone can defend it personally, I hope to god that his disciplinary record is taken into account.

    I'm worried now with how we'll line up with Makinson and Percival out, shades of earlier in the year when our back line was moved around a lot because of injuries. Today could be a costly victory for us.

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    It was a bit strange

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    Very bizarre.. think it all depends what Watts says on er.. how much of a grip.

    All Makinson could possibly argue is that he thought it was his leg

    Bit of a stretch, and I think he's got a ban coming

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    It's all down to intentions. I don't think it was an intentional spud grabbing. But there is no doubt contact was made and there will be a ban incoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brook View Post
    It's all down to intentions. I don't think it was an intentional spud grabbing. But there is no doubt contact was made and there will be a ban incoming.
    The only thing in Tommy's favour is that the bloke never showed pain

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    I've only seen the reply once, did he squeeze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 58er View Post
    The only thing in Tommy's favour is that the bloke never showed pain
    That's what I though and it's not something you can hide if it hurts. The other thing was it wasn't like he was trying to swing on them.

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    If we have room financially do we now look to bring in a three quarter given Percy is likely out for 4-6 weeks and Makinson could be out for 8+ potentially, maybe someone from a championship club or the Wolfpack, given our current lack of cover there is it worth a loan move?

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    Matty Russell?

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    Presumably it'll be Costello in for Percy, maybe a few games for Simm on the wing? Is Rizzelli still around? He might stick Welsby there too I guess.

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    Bit of a daft thing for him to do tbh. Fully expect an 8 game ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulscnthorpe View Post
    Very bizarre.. think it all depends what Watts says on er.. how much of a grip.

    All Makinson could possibly argue is that he thought it was his leg

    Bit of a stretch, and I think he's got a ban coming
    Watts will probably be out bragging if TM says he thought it was his leg.
    In TM's defence I think he was looking the opposite way when he put his hand there. Though that might just be me with my Saints glasses on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulscnthorpe View Post
    Very bizarre.. think it all depends what Watts says on er.. how much of a grip.

    All Makinson could possibly argue is that he thought it was his leg

    Bit of a stretch, and I think he's got a ban coming
    I canít see Watts defending Tommy. He went crying to the ref. Also as someone as said he didnít appear to be in much pain.

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    We'll now likely see if KW has learnt anything from the seasons start where he brought players in and plated them out of position and paid the price for doing so. If he replaces MP and TM in the same way it'll stink. He has cover in the entire squad so he should use them. My bet is that he'll do exactly the same again proving he's learnt nothing but I hope I'm wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by knowsleyroaders View Post
    I canít see Watts defending Tommy. He went crying to the ref. Also as someone as said he didnít appear to be in much pain.
    Tommy was talking to Watts as the game ended, when they were all shaking hands and it looked cordial. Might not matter but there looked to be no sore (sour) grapes (if you pardon the pun)
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    Default Tommy Makinson

    As some have said, itíll come down to whether it is judged to have been intentional. Thereís no doubt he gets a handful, but at no point is he looking at what heís grabbing. It looks dodgy and I have to say I suspect he knew what he was doing, but I can see him getting away with 2-3 games for something like careless conduct rather than the 8 games people are talking about.

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    I think it was a moment of massive stupidity from him and there’s no defending him I’m afraid. His otherwise impeccable character might be his only chance of leniency there
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJon View Post
    I've only seen the reply once, did he squeeze?
    DID HE Squeeze it was like milking a cow????????? 2-3 match ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    If we have room financially do we now look to bring in a three quarter given Percy is likely out for 4-6 weeks and Makinson could be out for 8+ potentially, maybe someone from a championship club or the Wolfpack, given our current lack of cover there is it worth a loan move?
    An important situation to manage. I would normally look to the championship or academy but none of them have played.
    Maybe Jodie Broughton as an 8 game short term stopgap or Jacob Smille as a chance for a young gun.

    Just plugging with the likes of Welsby on the wing is not the answer.

    I think Simm needs to get a run at centre regardless.

    Percival needs to give some thought as to whether he just wants to be a first tackle battering ram or a centre.

    He needs to do his share but looks like all he wants to run through everyone on an exit set carry.
    There doesn't seem to be anything else to his game on his return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Mander View Post
    An important situation to manage. I would normally look to the championship or academy but none of them have played.
    Maybe Jodie Broughton as an 8 game short term stopgap or Jacob Smille as a chance for a young gun.

    Just plugging with the likes of Welsby on the wing is not the answer.

    I think Simm needs to get a run at centre regardless.

    Percival needs to give some thought as to whether he just wants to be a first tackle battering ram or a centre.

    He needs to do his share but looks like all he wants to run through everyone on an exit set carry.
    There doesn't seem to be anything else to his game on his return.
    TBF I think Percy gets told he is a first carry battering ram, the same as practically every other 3/4r in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux View Post
    As some have said, it’ll come down to whether it is judged to have been intentional. There’s no doubt he gets a handful, but at no point is he looking at what he’s grabbing. It looks dodgy and I have to say I suspect he knew what he was doing, but I can see him getting away with 2-3 games for something like careless conduct rather than the 8 games people are talking about.
    He'll get banned & deservedly so. Utterly stupid but we all make mistakes
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    He had an absolute shocker outside of this incident as well, dropped everything in sight.

    I want him to be innocent, but I just can't see how he can be. There is no juristiction for his record anymore, if he's found guilty it's a minimum 8 game ban. The only defense is that he's not looking and I'm sure he'll say he was trying to grab the shirt to hold him on him to get the penalty. Could easily be without him for 8 weeks. Would that make it a longer ban game wise than Ben Flower's?

    No Percival for a month to 6 weeks either. We're going to lose a few if Costello is seen as the answer there. Bring the kids in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    He'll get banned & deservedly so. Utterly stupid but we all make mistakes
    It didn't look intentional to me Ralph. Looks like he was looking for something to give him leverage to get a quick play the ball & unfortunately gripped his wedding tackle.

    Do you remember Sam Burgess a few years ago? His 'squirrel grip' only got him a two game ban (I think) and he deliberately grabbed & squeezed the balls from behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tilly2006 View Post
    It didn't look intentional to me Ralph. Looks like he was looking for something to give him leverage to get a quick play the ball & unfortunately gripped his wedding tackle.

    Do you remember Sam Burgess a few years ago? His 'squirrel grip' only got him a two game ban (I think) and he deliberately grabbed & squeezed the balls from behind.
    I guess the debate over it is positive as it's not clear cut. I thought there was enough intent there to be honest.

    I do yeah & Pryce's against Bradford in the cup semi.

    I can just see them coming down hard on stuff like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by tilly2006 View Post
    Do you remember Sam Burgess a few years ago? His 'squirrel grip' only got him a two game ban (I think) and he deliberately grabbed & squeezed the balls from behind.
    It doesn't work like that anymore though. He's got to either be found not guilty, or banned for a minimum of 8 games.

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