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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues Gallery View Post
    Toronto Wolfpack have told Super League they may not be able to finish the 2020 season due to visa issues with their seven overseas players.


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby...liams-22356052
    This sounds very much like the "holiday visas" that were in operation for the welsh rugby league team around 2011. The RFL/Superleague need to show better better registration administration skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion Saint View Post
    Or see which championship clubs are ready to step up and fill the vacant spots
    Head says Leigh, heart says Tolouse

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    Good to see fixtures have just been announced

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    And also good to see the pies having to play a ‘home’ game at our place


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    https://www.skysports.com/rugby-leag...n-are-revealed

    Week one (proper) at Headingley, Week Two at Saints, presume they'll just rotate until the government advice changes, I've heard wire may be on the rota too.

    Three spare weekends for challenge cup, a lot of games to get through

    Great stuff though

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    challenge cup tie v Salford to be played at Huddersfield on 22 August at 5pm

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    The government have announced that providing successful trials go well, fans will be allowed back in stadiums from October under social distancing rules. So you'd imagine it will be limited crowds at 1stbut better than nothing. It also coincides with the Cup Semi and Final which are both in October and GF in November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobbynator View Post
    The government have announced that providing successful trials go well, fans will be allowed back in stadiums from October under social distancing rules. So you'd imagine it will be limited crowds at 1stbut better than nothing. It also coincides with the Cup Semi and Final which are both in October and GF in November.

    Fingers crossed

    (although I think this government long since stopped following scientific guidance and are just prioritising a reopening of the economy in a gung-ho, Trumpesque manner)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobbynator View Post
    The government have announced that providing successful trials go well, fans will be allowed back in stadiums from October under social distancing rules. So you'd imagine it will be limited crowds at 1stbut better than nothing. It also coincides with the Cup Semi and Final which are both in October and GF in November.
    Hopefully we are down to the minimum infections by then but there will be a few establishments wanting to spoil the party. The Scientific Advisors and Trade Unions will want to delay everything and not take an ounce of blame on deaths and the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    Fingers crossed

    (although I think this government long since stopped following scientific guidance and are just prioritising a reopening of the economy in a gung-ho, Trumpesque manner)
    Like every other country in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Like every other country in Europe.
    The difference being that other European countries imposed timely actions to control it initially whilst this incompetent rabble of shysters dithered, then only lifted restrictions once far more under control than the UK ever got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    The difference being that other European countries imposed timely actions to control it initially whilst this incompetent rabble of shysters dithered, then only lifted restrictions once far more under control than the UK ever got it.
    They made an arse of it in Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    They made an arse of it in Germany.
    Certainly did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Certainly did.
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    General concensus is that they did pretty well overall.

    Timely imposition of restrictions, adequate supplies of PPE, one of the first countries to bring in mass testing.

    By any measure, their total and per-capita deaths are a fraction of those suffered in the UK, the reason for such high death numbers here largely down to catastrophically incompetent government decision-making.

    Of course, the daily briefings were used as party political broadcasts where the government turds would congratulate themselves on what a 'world class' job they'd done, and lie through their teeth. They've now moved onto trying to rewrite history - little Matty Handjob today trying to claim the government locked-down a week earlier than they did, and both him and Bozo trying to blame others for the sheer blundering idiocy of this government.

    Sadly, enough ill-informed people, most wearing their Brexit blinkers, will fall for the lies and bullsh*t.

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-exemplar-germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    Fingers crossed

    (although I think this government long since stopped following scientific guidance and are just prioritising a reopening of the economy in a gung-ho, Trumpesque manner)
    Which countries haven't though? I have mates in Spain and their bars have been open for weeks. I have mates in France who have been sat in other peoples houses quite legally for weeks, etc. I get the anti-Tory narrative but we are hardly alone in trying to get things moving, and like it or not, without an economy we are screwed and alot more lives will be ruined by unemployment, depression, poverty.

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    All I can say is if you want to chance it so be it I will but I, m 65 and have my own gungho attitude but still hope everybody takes care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    ?

    General concensus is that they did pretty well overall.

    Timely imposition of restrictions, adequate supplies of PPE, one of the first countries to bring in mass testing.

    By any measure, their total and per-capita deaths are a fraction of those suffered in the UK, the reason for such high death numbers here largely down to catastrophically incompetent government decision-making.

    Of course, the daily briefings were used as party political broadcasts where the government turds would congratulate themselves on what a 'world class' job they'd done, and lie through their teeth. They've now moved onto trying to rewrite history - little Matty Handjob today trying to claim the government locked-down a week earlier than they did, and both him and Bozo trying to blame others for the sheer blundering idiocy of this government.

    Sadly, enough ill-informed people, most wearing their Brexit blinkers, will fall for the lies and bullsh*t.

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-exemplar-germany
    Apologies Webbo, was a lazy comment from me without much substance.

    I agreed with Dave in regard to how soon Germany tried to get back to "normal" as it where when cases dropped & they had a few localised outbreaks, for example the one in the meat processing place in the north west.

    Overall, they handled it well as you say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    ?

    General concensus is that they did pretty well overall.

    Timely imposition of restrictions, adequate supplies of PPE, one of the first countries to bring in mass testing.

    By any measure, their total and per-capita deaths are a fraction of those suffered in the UK, the reason for such high death numbers here largely down to catastrophically incompetent government decision-making.

    Of course, the daily briefings were used as party political broadcasts where the government turds would congratulate themselves on what a 'world class' job they'd done, and lie through their teeth. They've now moved onto trying to rewrite history - little Matty Handjob today trying to claim the government locked-down a week earlier than they did, and both him and Bozo trying to blame others for the sheer blundering idiocy of this government.

    Sadly, enough ill-informed people, most wearing their Brexit blinkers, will fall for the lies and bullsh*t.

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-exemplar-germany
    They were probably the only country in Europe who had a test + trace system already in place with all the labs to support and speed up results. Most of Germany's initial infections came from the holiday skiers in Northern Italy and they were able to track most of those people down. Their elderly care system is also much superior and they were able to shield them very early before the virus peaked.

    For the Uk we did a lot of testing months too late, we have done more testing than any country in Europe, looks good on paper but we still don't have a trace system fit for purpose, our elderly care system protection has been a total disgrace. We have one of the highest death rates per infections rate in the world..........is this because of the scientific advisors mantra of protect the NHS when we should have hit the virus head on instead of delay, delay, delay.

    Once the enquiry comes out next year the scientific advisors will be shown in a very bad light and the government will dragged over the coals on their handling of the elderly care system and the propaganda type decision making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    The difference being that other European countries imposed timely actions to control it initially whilst this incompetent rabble of shysters dithered, then only lifted restrictions once far more under control than the UK ever got it.
    What I was meaning is that in Spain the experts say the lockdown was lifted too early and say it should be in place again now, instead, because of the economy there are about 20 different areas that are locked down (all too late), We are not able to be tested unless we are sick enough to be taken into hospital. Spain has a socialist government so I don't think politics is a big issue with regard to Covid.
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    If the CC Final was played at Wembley, I wonder what sort of crowd would be allowed 30,000?..The CC final crowd looks more socially distant year on year anyway...
    The RFL own the lease to Odsal I wouldn't be shocked to see that used dependant on its current condition. SD could be applied there I reckon, no roof either so everything would just go up into the atmosphere.. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Newlove View Post
    If the CC Final was played at Wembley, I wonder what sort of crowd would be allowed 30,000?..The CC final crowd looks more socially distant year on year anyway...
    The RFL own the lease to Odsal I wouldn't be shocked to see that used dependant on its current condition. SD could be applied there I reckon, no roof either so everything would just go up into the atmosphere.. Just a thought.
    Sounds like you are talking about RFL Leadership and Strategy.

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    Just wondering if the clubs that have had difficulty getting their players to agree to a pay cut ( Wire etc) if those players will be as committed to the cause As they have been. Wire have had to go through arbitration with the players union, and I know from experience that the aftermath of that means that the employees are reluctant to go above and beyond, and are very suspicious about the management motives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostik Bailey View Post
    Just wondering if the clubs that have had difficulty getting their players to agree to a pay cut ( Wire etc) if those players will be as committed to the cause As they have been. Wire have had to go through arbitration with the players union, and I know from experience that the aftermath of that means that the employees are reluctant to go above and beyond, and are very suspicious about the management motives.
    Good because I'm bothered that Wire might win this year, the quicker ptb will suit the likes of Clark with Ratchford backing up and then with Widdop and Austin. So yeah I hope they don't care
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Newlove View Post
    Good because I'm bothered that Wire might win this year, the quicker ptb will suit thd likes of Clark with Ratchford backing up and through in Widdop and Austin. So yeah I hope they don't care
    Yeh those two could be dangerous, but you also have the likes of donkey Hill and BMM. I wonder if teams will be tempted to play 1-2 more 3/4s and less forwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Yeh those two could be dangerous, but you also have the likes of donkey Hill and BMM. I wonder if teams will be tempted to play 1-2 more 3/4s and less forwards.
    Me and my brother was talking about this earlier. I wonder if we'll see a situation of having both Aaron Smith and James Roby on at the same time to give us extra pace.

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