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    Quote Originally Posted by Youlightupmysenses View Post
    Spot on legman. We’re struggling to create and score in the backs and we’ve got this lad who’s saints through and though sitting in the reserves. I don’t understand what he has to do to get a shot. If he can’t get a chance with Percival out, he’s not going to this season which is crazy to me. The fact we are playing welsby in numerous positions just so he can get a shirt is ridiculous. Simm is the stand out player from that age at academy if you were to pick 1. Played for England at all levels and has the stats of a real star. I don’t know why we’re being like this with one of our own, his grandad won both the lance Todd and Harry Sunderland trophy whilst playing for saints! Just seems unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Hello Mrs Simm. Your lad will get his chance soon don’t worry
    Haha that’s like the third person this month to sign up just to talk about him.

    Whoever plays in that position tomorrow will definitely get tested. I’d probably go Costello but Woolf doesn’t seem to fancy him so I’d expect him to go for Welsby.

    Good to have Coote back, he’s obviously been a big miss for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tez the Saint View Post
    Haha that’s like the third person this month to sign up on here just to talk about him.

    Whoever plays in that position tomorrow will definitely get tested. I’d probably go Costello but Woolf doesn’t seem to fancy him so I’d expect him to go for Welsby.

    Good to have Coote back, he’s obviously been a big miss for us.
    Yeah I expect Welsby to play too. All jokes aside I do hope Simm is given a go at some point but Cas away maybe not ideal for a debut?

    Coote will make a huge difference mate. I suspect everyone claiming we have suddenly gone back to 5 drives and a kick will see sense over the next couple of weeks now we’ve got a key part of our attack back in there.

    The issue has been execution, not tactics. Hopefully that will pick up a bit now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Yeah I expect Welsby to play too. All jokes aside I do hope Simm is given a go at some point but Cas away maybe not ideal for a debut?

    Coote will make a huge difference mate. I suspect everyone claiming we have suddenly gone back to 5 drives and a kick will see sense over the next couple of weeks now we’ve got a key part of our attack back in there.

    The issue has been execution, not tactics. Hopefully that will pick up a bit now.
    Tez and you are right to be positive about Coote’s return but I think we should manage our expectations. He hasn’t played since the first game and he wasn’t brilliant when he came back for the Cup Final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suttoner View Post
    Tez and you are right to be positive about Coote’s return but I think we should manage our expectations. He hasn’t played since the first game and he wasn’t brilliant when he came back for the Cup Final.
    Yeah there’ll be some rust there mate but I do think he’ll steady the ship and he’ll turn possession/territory into points more so than anyone else at full back.
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    Maybe HKR at home would be the best game to try him in but there may well be a suspension of games by then

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Yeah there’ll be some rust there mate but I do think he’ll steady the ship and he’ll turn possession/territory into points more so than anyone else at full back.
    Certainly a major boost but as you say we can’t expect a top line performance as it takes time to get back in the groove again, but then again we can all hope to be pleasantly surprised.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Yeah I expect Welsby to play too. All jokes aside I do hope Simm is given a go at some point but Cas away maybe not ideal for a debut?

    Coote will make a huge difference mate. I suspect everyone claiming we have suddenly gone back to 5 drives and a kick will see sense over the next couple of weeks now we’ve got a key part of our attack back in there.

    The issue has been execution, not tactics. Hopefully that will pick up a bit now.
    Welsby may play but I think I would prefer Costello, he has his limitations but for a squad filler he is reasonably steady, whereas Welsby confidence must be were the ball is when he is catching it, on the floor. If Welsb does play I really hope he has a good one, a good game could give his confidence such a shot, that going forward we could see a different side of him to the past few weeks

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    [QUOTE=The Yellow Giraffe;788442]Hello Mrs Simm. Your lad will get his chance soon don’t worry

    Haha....I thought I was Mrs Simm a couple of months or so ago....

    I would go Costello for the centre position from the squad named. I don’t particularly rate him as I have mentioned previously but he is a centre. I wonder what Percival thinks about Woolf’s train of thought about anyone seems to be able to play at centre rather than it being a specialist position which it certainly is.

    I,m a bit concerned about Woolf from a supporters point of view. I know he has been short of a few players so far but not all at the same time and not really for any length of time except maybe Coote,but the only changes we have seen since Holbrooks tenure finished have been negative ones. Not as good and fluid in attack, more wrestle, more penalties against us, slowing the game down, not as attractive to watch, poorer game management and end to sets. One dangerous thing that has definitely changed is Holbrook also said if you play well you keep the shirt. That has changed under Woolf. If you play poorly you still get selected. Bentley was poor at hooker especially at distribution from the floor and I can’t remember him jumping from dummy half or mixing his game up, he still got selected above a hooker in Smith and Smith was playing the better. Welsby was poor at winger in the first game and looked lost before moving to fullback when Coote went off. He did one decent cut out pass in that game but the rest has been either very average or worse, but he kept his shirt.....now there is a strong chance he may get the shirt in a different position over specialist centres without deserving it. Now that is very worrying for a supporter and rightly people should be asking questions of what is going on there and why are things changing from an obvious previous winning formulation. There should be transparency and no favouritism.

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    Shady Saint, it's getting like the "I'm Spartacus " moment. I thought I was Mrs Simm as week or so ago.....��. Wrong gender and I would presume wrong age! No hidden agenda here, just want to see a lad get a chance. Like I said last time, better to have players fighting for a shirt rather than automatic selection no matter what.

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    Genuinely thinking the only reason we are playing tomorrow and not postponed is that Sky believe we are a bunch of thick Northerners who are providing entertainment for the masses given football has been cancelled for the foreseeable future, no doubt the RFL are happy for us to play as they see any publicity as good publicity and with nothing happening at the same time as us they see any viewing figures as a positive. Quite simply given the current climate we should not be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Genuinely thinking the only reason we are playing tomorrow and not postponed is that Sky believe we are a bunch of thick Northerners who are providing entertainment for the masses given football has been cancelled for the foreseeable future, no doubt the RFL are happy for us to play as they see any publicity as good publicity and with nothing happening at the same time as us they see any viewing figures as a positive. Quite simply given the current climate we should not be playing.
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Rimmer at the game, probably say he is showing solidarity, but just wanting to get on TV in front of a potential large viewing audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Rimmer at the game, probably say he is showing solidarity, but just wanting to get on TV in front of a potential large viewing audience.
    Selling stolen bog rolls out the back of his car after the game too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    Selling stolen bog rolls out the back of his car after the game too.
    Well he has contributed to the game being in the toilet.

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    Big Nige is going whilst its on SKY he has made Cas reserve three seats for him, who are you bringing he was asked --- you know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Genuinely thinking the only reason we are playing tomorrow and not postponed is that Sky believe we are a bunch of thick Northerners who are providing entertainment for the masses given football has been cancelled for the foreseeable future, no doubt the RFL are happy for us to play as they see any publicity as good publicity and with nothing happening at the same time as us they see any viewing figures as a positive. Quite simply given the current climate we should not be playing.
    Just money isn't it. There was a Guardian article where a Wakefield executive said that he'd estimate they'd lose around 60k ir games got cancelled and that seriously threatened the clubs finances. Losing 60k in the overall scheme of things shouldn't threaten a clubs existence and it gives an insight into how these clubs are struggling financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Just money isn't it. There was a Guardian article where a Wakefield executive said that he'd estimate they'd lose around 60k ir games got cancelled and that seriously threatened the clubs finances. Losing 60k in the overall scheme of things shouldn't threaten a clubs existence and it gives an insight into how these clubs are struggling financially.

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    There’s several clubs relying on sky money just to pay their salary cap. I can see how the cancellation of home games could cause some clubs real problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsepho View Post
    Genuinely thinking the only reason we are playing tomorrow and not postponed is that Sky believe we are a bunch of thick Northerners who are providing entertainment for the masses given football has been cancelled for the foreseeable future, no doubt the RFL are happy for us to play as they see any publicity as good publicity and with nothing happening at the same time as us they see any viewing figures as a positive. Quite simply given the current climate we should not be playing.
    The medical and epidemiological experts have said that attending sports events doesn't substantially increase the spread of infection. The reason given by the government as to why they would suspend sports events (before most sports took that decision out of their hands and stopped anyway) was due to the strain on police/emergency services personnel in a situation where they were already under severe pressure.

    There's a balance that needs to be struck between hysterical overreaction and complacency.

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    Any team news?


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    This would be a really good day to live up to your self granted “Entertainers” tag, for the good of the game (no pressure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie McWolf View Post
    This would be a really good day to live up to your self granted “Entertainers” tag, for the good of the game (no pressure).
    I thought that came from Warrington's Eddie Hemmings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legman View Post
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    Costello and Paulo drop out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    The medical and epidemiological experts have said that attending sports events doesn't substantially increase the spread of infection. The reason given by the government as to why they would suspend sports events (before most sports took that decision out of their hands and stopped anyway) was due to the strain on police/emergency services personnel in a situation where they were already under severe pressure.

    There's a balance that needs to be struck between hysterical overreaction and complacency.

    I agree 100%. The media must take some responsibility for what is going on. It's whipping up panic as if the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse are riding over the horizon. What we've got is a virulent form of flu that as yet we don't have a vaccine for, not the Black Death. Someone should trot out all the stats for how many folk die in domestic accidents, car accidents, of the usual flu etc, etc, just to put the media hysteria in to perspective. The only poor folk at serious risk are the elderly the very young and those with pre-exisiting and serious health issues. Many of us could have had this virus and not even known about it. It does seem crazy to be banning sporting events and the soon to be announced public gatherings of more than 500, when going to supermarkets you literally mix with hundreds of people, who pick up and put back hundreds of items on the shelves, whilst coughing, sneezing etc. Caution and common sense yes, mass hysteria and panic, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Welsby
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Thompson
    Roby
    Walmsley
    Peyroux
    Taia
    Knowles

    LMS
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    Amor
    Smith

    Costello and Paulo drop out.
    Costello must be looking to move on at the end of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prez View Post
    I agree 100%. The media must take some responsibility for what is going on. It's whipping up panic as if the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse are riding over the horizon. What we've got is a virulent form of flu that as yet we don't have a vaccine for, not the Black Death. Someone should trot out all the stats for how many folk die in domestic accidents, car accidents, of the usual flu etc, etc, just to put the media hysteria in to perspective. The only poor folk at serious risk are the elderly the very young and those with pre-exisiting and serious health issues. Many of us could have had this virus and not even known about it. It does seem crazy to be banning sporting events and the soon to be announced public gatherings of more than 500, when going to supermarkets you literally mix with hundreds of people, who pick up and put back hundreds of items on the shelves, whilst coughing, sneezing etc. Caution and common sense yes, mass hysteria and panic, no.
    All the official figures I’ve seen show that the very young are least at risk - tiny morbidity rate wherever the figures come from. But in older groups with certain underlying health conditions the morbidity rate is approaching the rate inflicted on the general population by the Black Death. On a population level that might not be significant, but it is if you’re in the at risk group. Restrictions are a response to the lack of a vaccine, and the depressed state of our public and emergency health provision; the restrictions protect everyone, as a vaccine does. The problem is a real one that only a community-wide response can address.

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