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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Day View Post
    One positive re the play offs is the defence. I agree we are still a bit careless with the ball at times and we need to sort that out sharpish. The pitches will soften up over the next month so it is highly unlikely we will win the GF by playing dazzling rugby, it rarely works out that way

    One thing in our favour is that we should be the freshest team by far and if we can turn the games into arm wrestles that should suit us
    And that's exactly what worries me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    So was tonight more Huddersfield being crap or saints being great? I thought the latter to be honest
    We weren't great at all. Huddersfield were atrocious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    We weren't great at all. Huddersfield were atrocious
    I hear what you're saying pal but beating a team by 40plus points is a good sign,, i mean its not our fault they were crap, or maybe it was because our defence was good again

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    Thought there was better flow and movement in our game, most of our errors were from messy rucks and PTB's its epidemic in Superleague at the moment. Thompson now looking as though he's got too his best form before he got the ankle injury, great effort from LMS tore the giants defence at times. I think Bentley played himself into a regular first 17 spot at the expense of Paulo, Bentley is a lot more versatile and a tough bugger just like Bateman.

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    A possible equation would be our attack tonight coupled with our defence last week equals saints fans pouring into old trafford 5 weeks tomorrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    I hear what you're saying pal but beating a team by 40plus points is a good sign,, i mean its not our fault they were crap, or maybe it was because our defence was good again
    I guess so. But too many errors and forced plays.

    I don't like it as much as anyone else but for 10 years now, the crunch games have been won by the teams who control the ruck, kick well & utilise their entire pack to wear down the opposition. When we went down the middle tonight, we scored points. Against better opponents, you might not score as many points but you need to play the short kicking game, trap them, bash them & repeat.

    I doubt we will say one high scoring game in the play offs. They will all be low scoring, close games
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I guess so. But too many errors and forced plays.

    I don't like it as much as anyone else but for 10 years now, the crunch games have been won by the teams who control the ruck, kick well & utilise their entire pack to wear down the opposition. When we went down the middle tonight, we scored points. Against better opponents, you might not score as many points but you need to play the short kicking game, trap them, bash them & repeat.

    I doubt we will say one high scoring game in the play offs. They will all be low scoring, close games
    100% with you there,, we wont see a high scoring game come the play offs,, my memory tells me they are always tight games,,, its just a feeling i know but i can't see us not making old trafford but like what you said yourself earlier in the week, i can see us losing the gf, obviously lets hope we're wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkers89 View Post
    Felt like the forwards where running flat when taking the ball up.

    Sloppy handling

    Hudds tried slowing our game down.


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    I thought Thompson and big Al ran very well, supported by LMS. Taia didn't seem up to speed at all.

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    We dropped a ton of ball tonight.
    Pretty much sums up the quality of the opposition when you can be so average with the ball in hand and win by such a huge margin.
    Had we been properly on song tonight could have been 60-70 points on the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I thought Thompson and big Al ran very well, supported by LMS. Taia didn't seem up to speed at all.
    I think losing Percival might have influenced how Taia played.

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    My main concern come the play offs is the number of other teams that will be building momentum. I really don't think we need the rest as most of the squad are fresh atm & arguably need game time.

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    We won’t win a trophy until we cut down the unforced errors. Clearly it hasn’t hit home yet, obviously the Challenge Cup Final didn’t do the job. They’ve got a couple of weeks to sort it out if they fancy winning at Old Trafford.
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    To be honest I thought we used tonight as an opposed training run. We tried different things in attack. some came off some didn't. We didn't really need to build any pressure with repeat sets, they put themselves under pressure by errors coming off their own line. I thought a few players were running good lines tonight and created plenty of gaps in their defensive line.. Quite e few of the errors came after the sudden downpour, from both sides. I was quite happy with the way things went. Hope we put a full team out again next week. No resting players unless they have a knock. Plenty of time to rest in the week off. i'm quietly confident at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retro74 View Post
    The Burgess Wigan have signed (George) has had two gouging bans. A 4 game ban for gouging a NZ player in an international and a 9 game ban for gouging Robbie Farah in an NRL game
    In that case I take back everything I said . Now glad we did not sign him . Disgusted at Wigin for signing him but not surprised .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Glad someone has similar concerns. We want to play at 100mph & score off every play.

    The play off games will have a slow ruck & we'll get suffocated playing panic rugby again. It's alright against the likes of that dross we played tonight. A Wigan, a Wire or quite possibly a Salford will kill us on percentages & beat us
    'We want to play 100 mph'. I said this after the C/C defeat . I only hope Holbrook see's it as well .
    Have not seen the game , did it not rain. Perhaps an excuse for our bad handling .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tez the Saint View Post
    We won’t win a trophy until we cut down the unforced errors. Clearly it hasn’t hit home yet, obviously the Challenge Cup Final didn’t do the job. They’ve got a couple of weeks to sort it out if they fancy winning at Old Trafford.
    Quite. I think this is a result of being so dominant throughout the year. When was the last time that we played a league game that really mattered? Lets be honest, we’ve had the LLS wrapped up since mid season. We just aren’t playing at an intensity that wins trophies. Nerves and desperation can bring the best out of a team. But we haven’t known that feeling for a long time through being so many points ahead in the table. The other teams in the top 5 have been scrapping for position over the last few months. To them, every game has mattered.
    The play offs will bring a new level of intensity. I hope Holbrook has us ready for that.
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    Fage and Lomax, woeful. Don’t know what’s up with Lomax but he’s lost his spark at the moment. Absolutely flat performance other than a few breaks by Thompson, knowles, LMS. We seem utterly flat at the moment. Shame to be saying that after scoring 48 but Huddersfield were like an under 19’s team.

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    There’s a saying in sport.....

    “YOU CAN ONLY BEAT WHAT’S PUT IN FRONT OF YOU”

    We haven’t suddenly become a crap team. Warrington struggled against a •••••• poor Wakefield, Hull are so far off the boil it’s unbelievable.

    Salford and Wigan are going well but we are far far better than both of them and if we take the chances in front of us we’ll be at the GF..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fonsboy View Post
    'We want to play 100 mph'. I said this after the C/C defeat . I only hope Holbrook see's it as well .
    Have not seen the game , did it not rain. Perhaps an excuse for our bad handling .
    There was a short spell of blustery rain in the 2nd half.
    It was hardly Hurricane Dorian. No excuses. We better get used to it as it quite often chucks it down at Old Trafford (should we get there)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Reverand View Post
    Fage and Lomax, woeful. Don’t know what’s up with Lomax but he’s lost his spark at the moment. Absolutely flat performance other than a few breaks by Thompson, knowles, LMS. We seem utterly flat at the moment. Shame to be saying that after scoring 48 but Huddersfield were like an under 19’s team.
    Think teams have shut him down mate. Pivotal player for us & defences are now flying up on him
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishy3005 View Post
    Quite. I think this is a result of being so dominant throughout the year. When was the last time that we played a league game that really mattered? Lets be honest, we’ve had the LLS wrapped up since mid season. We just aren’t playing at an intensity that wins trophies. Nerves and desperation can bring the best out of a team. But we haven’t known that feeling for a long time through being so many points ahead in the table. The other teams in the top 5 have been scrapping for position over the last few months. To them, every game has mattered.
    The play offs will bring a new level of intensity. I hope Holbrook has us ready for that.
    Warrington end of June I'd say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    I think losing Percival might have influenced how Taia played.
    He's 34. Enough experience. He should have moved in field more & trundled it down the middle for a spell. Early in the second half he did this off his own 10 & went 20 metres with 3 men on his back. He can't half make some hard yards when he decides he wants to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tez the Saint View Post
    We won’t win a trophy until we cut down the unforced errors. Clearly it hasn’t hit home yet, obviously the Challenge Cup Final didn’t do the job. They’ve got a couple of weeks to sort it out if they fancy winning at Old Trafford.
    A lot of that is to do with our style of play our approach of fast passing and changing in direction at needs meets pretty good timing and thats what creating the unforced errors, I think week in week out our error count has been high over the last couple of months its got worse though and our completion rate is poor.

    We just need to be a bit more conservative with composure ready for the play off football, I don't think our half backs are playing smart and thats mostly down to the absence of Coote for that long period. Our biggest errors at the moment is the ruck and PTB under interference which quite often the referees give too much tolerance to the defensive side.

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    Some harsh comments here imo. We weren’t perfect but we have had a sustained period of time with a chunk of players missing. It’s all about getting back to where we were or as close as possible. Thompson was excellent, Knowles was much better, so too Big Al and Roby. Coote will benefit from the game and will be better gain next week. That’s crucial for us. His goal kicking was outstanding and that may well be needed in the play offs. I thought we showed glimpses of our best again, scoring the kind of well-executed tries out wide that we’ve not scored for a few weeks. I actually thought Lomax and Fages were decent last night. Defence is a real plus, for me it’s just the short kicking and careless errors that need sorting. As above it’s often through trying to play the ball too fast, just a bit of composure needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tez the Saint View Post
    We won’t win a trophy until we cut down the unforced errors. Clearly it hasn’t hit home yet, obviously the Challenge Cup Final didn’t do the job. They’ve got a couple of weeks to sort it out if they fancy winning at Old Trafford.
    I agree.

    Our defence is good but you can't invite pressure against good sides as they will wear you down and punish you.

    Respect the ball, force pressure and kick well. That's the key to tight games which is what will happen in the Play Offs. The likes of Wigan and Warrington will try to slow our ruck speed down if we face them and the refs will allow it so we've got to nail it in the forwards and force pressure rather than relinquishing ball like we did at Wembley and tonight.

    We scored some nice tries last night but Hudds were as bad as any team I've seen this season.
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