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    Default GB Training Squad

    https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/great...g-squad-21979/

    Great Britain 29-man Elite Performance Squad:

    Jake Trueman (Castleford Tigers, West Bowling)

    Liam Watts (Castleford Tigers, Featherstone Lions)

    Sam Tomkins (Catalans Dragons, Wigan St Patricks)

    Jermaine McGillvary (Huddersfield Giants, Deighton Juniors)

    Jake Connor (Hull FC, Siddal)

    Jamie Shaul (Hull FC, Skirlaugh)

    Scott Taylor (Hull FC, Skirlaugh)

    Ash Handley (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)

    Stevie Ward (Leeds Rhinos, Hunslet Warriors)

    Jonny Lomax (St Helens, Orrell St James)

    Tommy Makinson (St Helens, Wigan St Judes)

    Mark Percival (St Helens, Halton Farnworth Hornets)

    James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)

    Luke Thompson (St Helens, Bold Miners)

    Alex Walmsley (St Helens, Dewsbury Celtic)

    Morgan Knowles (St Helens – Wales)

    Lachlan Coote (St Helens – Scotland)

    Josh Jones (Salford Red Devils, Blackbrook Royals)

    Reece Lyne (Wakefield Trinity, Ideal Isberg)

    Blake Austin (Warrington Wolves, Doonside Roos)

    Josh Charnley (Warrington Wolves, Wigan St Patricks)

    Daryl Clark (Warrington Wolves, Fryston Warriors)

    Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves, New Springs Lions)

    Jack Hughes (Warrington Wolves, Golborne Parkside)

    Joe Philbin (Warrington Wolves, Culcheth Eagles)

    Stefan Ratchford (Warrington Wolves, Wigan St Patricks)

    Oliver Gildart (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)

    Sean O’Loughlin (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)

    George Williams (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)


    Obviously missing the Aus based contingent. Thoughts?

    Surprised Grace hasn't been given a chance.
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    Good recognition for Knowles and well deserved. Grace a bit unlucky

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    Still not sold on the idea of Coote and Austin being in there. They're about as British as I am Korean. At least Coote has played for Scotland previously, Austin has only played for Portugal bizarrely enough.

    I think it's fair that Grace misses out. I like the kid and he gives us something that few in SL are capable of in open field, however his defence is still suspect (particularly in the air) and regularly gets folded over bringing the ball out from our own line. He simply isn't tier one international class at present.

    Congrats to Knowles in particular though, hopefully the first of many international opportunities for him although might not make the final squad when the Burgii et al come in. Also pleased for Josh Jones. Doubt he'll make the final squad but he's been excellent this season and has really knuckled down to improve his game in recent years

    Surprised Connor is in there, his form stinks. Will be lucky if O'Loughlin is fit enough to play. Not sure Handley and Ward deserve places either.

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    I think McGillvary and Ward are lucky to be in there. Not sure if I would have S O'L nowadays either.

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    Training squad or not, there are some laughable inclusions there. Trueman, Shaul, Handley, Ward and Lyne should be nowhere near any England or GB squad, all nowhere near good enough. Couple of others who have had poor seasons and are lucky to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I think McGillvary and Ward are lucky to be in there. Not sure if I would have S O'L nowadays either.
    Ward is the selection gift that keeps giving.
    Cant believe Handley is in there but neither will make the full squad I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintH517 View Post
    Training squad or not, there are some laughable inclusions there. Trueman, Shaul, Handley, Ward and Lyne should be nowhere near any England or GB squad, all nowhere near good enough. Couple of others who have had poor seasons and are lucky to be there.
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    Great to see GB back. Looking at the squad list it's a bit underwhelming... but then again, there isn't much choice currently.

    I expect us to put up decent opposition against the south sea island nations - but we're lacking in real star quality. The only ones that could be deemed that - including aussie based players - seem to be those coming towards the end of their careers.

    If KW becomes our next coach then he could get to see some of our players up close and we get to see his approach too first match up

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    I expect Smithies to replace O Loughlin next year. Looks a very good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiewaringsflatcap View Post
    I expect Smithies to replace O Loughlin next year. Looks a very good player.
    I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the England Knights squad when they tour later this year. He must stand a great chance for "rookie" of the year and maybe young player of the year, but I'm not 100% sure of the qualifying age for that one. Harry Newman should be in with a shout for that and probably Regan Grace if he qualifies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintH517 View Post
    Training squad or not, there are some laughable inclusions there. Trueman, Shaul, Handley, Ward and Lyne should be nowhere near any England or GB squad, all nowhere near good enough. Couple of others who have had poor seasons and are lucky to be there.
    Who would you have in there instead of these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside View Post
    Who would you have in there instead of these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside View Post
    Who would you have in there instead of these?
    I'd have Shane Ward in from Corrie before Stevie Ward
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    Bear in mind this squad will be cut down to 25 and youve got the NRL based contingent to fit in as well. Youve got 3 Burgesses, Hodgson, Widdop, Whitehead, Bateman, Graham and Hall to add into the equation. That makes a 38 player squad, cut 13 players from that and the dross is soon gone.

    Training squads are always a bit random especially when a coach is 10000 miles away. For example, Handley is top of the try scoring charts therefore Bennett probably wants a closer look at him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Day View Post
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    The talent pool is not worth diving into as it's a bit shallow would you say?
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    As usual I hope none of our players play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    As usual I hope none of our players play.
    Dont be silly.

    How are players like Knowles going to get the experience of playing in bigger, higher intensity games if they don't play in the international games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside View Post
    Who would you have in there instead of these?
    Bring in some younger players (Smithies, Newman, Walker, etc) who actually have the potential to be good enough in the future, have a smaller squad or, at the very least, pick on form. If Jamie Shaul is in there then so should Niall Evalds (not good enough but better than Shaul), for example. The ones I’ve listed there are all miles away from being good enough for international level and always will be so it’s completely pointless them being there.

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    Has Ryan Hall actually been playing for the Roosters? I haven't really followed it closely this year.

    Some funny inclusions in the squad, Stevie Ward, Handley, Lyne, Hughes, etc... and I have to agree I am not a fan of this Coote and Austin playing for GB, it's a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintH517 View Post
    Bring in some younger players (Smithies, Newman, Walker, etc) who actually have the potential to be good enough in the future, have a smaller squad or, at the very least, pick on form. If Jamie Shaul is in there then so should Niall Evalds (not good enough but better than Shaul), for example. The ones I’ve listed there are all miles away from being good enough for international level and always will be so it’s completely pointless them being there.
    The three you mentioned plus the likes of Welsby should be in the England Knights squad imo.
    I've no problem with Handley, he's the top try scorer in what has ben a very poor season for Leeds.
    Think! does he play on the same side of the field as Hurrell, if so that's a big help. Evalds has always been a very underrated player, again maybe should be in the Knights squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Hemmings' Wig View Post
    Dont be silly.

    How are players like Knowles going to get the experience of playing in bigger, higher intensity games if they don't play in the international games?
    I know, I just don't like the fact they're not playing for the club. It also puts them in the shop window. At least we're back to a GB team now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintH517 View Post
    Bring in some younger players (Smithies, Newman, Walker, etc) who actually have the potential to be good enough in the future, have a smaller squad or, at the very least, pick on form. If Jamie Shaul is in there then so should Niall Evalds (not good enough but better than Shaul), for example. The ones I’ve listed there are all miles away from being good enough for international level and always will be so it’s completely pointless them being there.
    Those players should be in the England knights squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside View Post
    Those players should be in the England knights squad
    Then one of the other two options. Either way there are 5 names in that squad who have done absolutely nothing to be there, whether they’ll be in the final squad or not. Another baffling one is no Mike Cooper, especially when Scott Taylor is there and he’s been in poor form for a while.

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    Just an aside but this GB announcement brings back memories of the 1988 GB tour down under I was on.
    We’re any of you guys on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superblue View Post
    Just an aside but this GB announcement brings back memories of the 1988 GB tour down under I was on.
    We’re any of you guys on that?
    Here we go.....

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