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    Quote Originally Posted by pramtown View Post
    Our kicking game was dreadful last night, Roby’s kicks are poor, and the first decent kick we did came on around 65mins when Richardson did a high one and it bounced between two Cas players. Ashworth was really struggling to keep up with play. Our play the balls were shocking as well, players are in such a rush to play it they end up losing the ball, or they try and milk a penalty (like walmsley tried to do) and he ended up dropping the ball. I wish Ganson would sort out the PTB’s.
    You mean the one where Watts clearly stripped it out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    We need Coote back as soon as possible our pivotal players are being picked up too easily, Coote adds those unpredictable attacking shapes.
    Friday night Castleford played without a "bobby" for the full game , allowing an extra man in the thier line defence , Brough would have had a field day against this , unfortunately not many other teams have the luxury of the guy with the best kicking game not just in the British game with the NFL included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    I should imagine the team just wanted to get through the game, get the 2 pts, re energise and move onto to next week. Both teams made plenty of errors Saints all season have defended well to cover their mistakes, Cas are not the same standard when it happens to them. For me Holbrook wouldn't have had a defensive plan in place........we missed 51 tackles one of the highest negative stats in a game all this season.
    I think this is nearer the reality. A great defensive effort.

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    Im pretty certain if we defend like we did on Friday night for the rest of season, then we will surely be grand final winners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    Im pretty certain if we defend like we did on Friday night for the rest of season, then we will surely be grand final winners
    It’d take a special team to beat us, that’s for sure.
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    Ive a group of saints fans from Norway staying at mine the day before the final, just hope we get there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    Im pretty certain if we defend like we did on Friday night for the rest of season, then we will surely be grand final winners
    Not if our discipline with the ball is like it was on Friday. Our defence is very impressive but we wont get away with all those errors in a final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    Im pretty certain if we defend like we did on Friday night for the rest of season, then we will surely be grand final winners
    Defensively solid on friday. Particularly after CC.

    However Cas are very limited in attack.
    No Pace or threat. (gale,shenton,eden etc)

    Other than the CCF blip, defence has been excellent all season.

    Attack has been either sublime or very ordinary and not much in between.
    Saints also not had many intense tight games.

    GFs are about taking 2-3 chances in 80 mins.

    Attack needs to be better. Not Harelm Globetrotters better but clinical.

    Won't be easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux View Post
    Not if our discipline with the ball is like it was on Friday. Our defence is very impressive but we won’t get away with all those errors in a final.
    A hull kr fan said to me yesterday afternoon, would a Warrington, wigan, hull fc or salford fan be worried about potentially having to play saints at old Trafford,, based on our Friday night performance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    A hull kr fan said to me yesterday afternoon, would a Warrington, wigan, hull fc or salford fan be worried about potentially having to play saints at old Trafford,, based on our Friday night performance?
    I'd see it like this...

    If a team scores 16 or more points against us in a play off game, we have got a major problem.

    Our defence is pretty good, our effort is tremendous, particularly the back line on exit sets.

    What we are not doing is building a platform with the forwards & creating pressure situations by forcing repeat sets or at least using a good short kicking game to make the opposition defence panic/scramble.

    If we don't sort this out quickly, we will not make the final. Winning the final is another task entirely. As it stands, my gut feeling is that we will be losing finalists.

    We are not as good as we have been made out. But that is through no lack of effort. The crunch games are played on percentages and pushing the rules to slow us down at the ruck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I'd see it like this...

    If a team scores 16 or more points against us in a play off game, we have got a major problem.

    Our defence is pretty good, our effort is tremendous, particularly the back line on exit sets.

    What we are not doing is building a platform with the forwards & creating pressure situations by forcing repeat sets or at least using a good short kicking game to make the opposition defence panic/scramble.

    If we don't sort this out quickly, we will not make the final. Winning the final is another task entirely. As it stands, my gut feeling is that we will be losing finalists.

    We are not as good as we have been made out. But that is through no lack of effort. The crunch games are played on percentages and pushing the rules to slow us down at the ruck.

    We have been found out & it's going to take a special, thought out plan to counteract it
    Very well put pal,,,,,, now then Ralph, thought I'd ask you as you've probably been in this pub, is the toll gate pub near Old Trafford any good? Its just that we'll be having a few in town before jumping on a tram at st peters square and somebody recommended the toll gate to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    Very well put pal,,,,,, now then Ralph, thought I'd ask you as you've probably been in this pub, is the toll gate pub near Old Trafford any good? Its just that we'll be having a few in town before jumping on a tram at st peters square and somebody recommended the toll gate to me
    Yeah it's alright mate. Proper Utd pub like. Ale is relatively cheap & it's not a bad pint. Can see me ending up in there myself unless the George do the crazy barge trip from the city centre again. If we get there of course.

    I'll be making sure I enjoy the day this time, had a bad feeling all the way down about Wembley & the day passed me by. Finals should be enjoyed, win or lose
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    Double post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Yeah it's alright mate. Proper Utd pub like. Ale is relatively cheap & it's not a bad pint. Can see me ending up in there myself unless the George do the crazy barge trip from the city centre again. If we get there of course.

    I'll be making sure I enjoy the day this time, had a bad feeling all the way down about Wembley & the day passed me by. Finals should be enjoyed, win or lose
    When we played Wigan in 2014,we met and had a great day's boozing in town with some Wakefield and barrow fans,,, top day all round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I'd see it like this...

    If a team scores 16 or more points against us in a play off game, we have got a major problem.

    Our defence is pretty good, our effort is tremendous, particularly the back line on exit sets.

    What we are not doing is building a platform with the forwards & creating pressure situations by forcing repeat sets or at least using a good short kicking game to make the opposition defence panic/scramble.

    If we don't sort this out quickly, we will not make the final. Winning the final is another task entirely. As it stands, my gut feeling is that we will be losing finalists.

    We are not as good as we have been made out. But that is through no lack of effort. The crunch games are played on percentages and pushing the rules to slow us down at the ruck.

    We have been found out & it's going to take a special, thought out plan to counteract it
    All the games we've lost this season have been with a completion rate between 60 to 70% if we play 80 to 90 % then its a win most days of the week. I would think last week it was more of Saints losing the game rather than Wire winning it. We need to learn, apply and execute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    All the games we've lost this season have been with a completion rate between 60 to 70% if we play 80 to 90 % then its a win most days of the week. I would think last week it was more of Saints losing the game rather than Wire winning it. We need to learn, apply and execute.
    Agree fully.
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    When we have had Coote/Fages/Lomax all fit our attack has been fine. I'm not convinced Coote was fit in the final. There are still games to go before the play offs, injuries can still play a huge part in the game. Will Wigan be as confident minus Williams and Leulai.
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    Think need to get to the bottom of these errors pretty quickly, so many of them are unforced. Not really concerned about our attack to be honest good ball wise because it’s so difficult when you make so many mistakes. Cas were a lot fresher than us so was always going to be hard to create opportunities, being without Coote and Fages only added to that as a few people have mentioned in this thread already.

    Defensively I thought the majority were very good, a couple of exceptions but thought the first choice players all defended pretty well given how much defending they did at the weekend. Didn’t think Cas were great with the ball but you can only defend and play what’s in front of you.

    For me the serious stuff starts now though, I’d be expecting our first choice 17 to play from here on in. I’d be surprised if we see any more players being rested between now and the end of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tez the Saint View Post
    Think need to get to the bottom of these errors pretty quickly, so many of them are unforced. Not really concerned about our attack to be honest good ball wise because it’s so difficult when you make so many mistakes. Cas were a lot fresher than us so was always going to be hard to create opportunities, being without Coote and Fages only added to that as a few people have mentioned in this thread already.

    Defensively very good on the whole, the odd exception but thought the first choice players all defended pretty well given how much defending they did at the weekend. Didn’t think Cas were great with the ball but you can only defend and play what’s in front of you.

    For me the serious stuff starts now though, I’d be expecting our first choice 17 to play from here on in. I’d be surprised if we see any more players being rested between now and the end of the year.
    My view was that it was an uninspiring performance in attack. I can accept this off the back of the huge disappointment of wembley which will have drained everyone physically and emotionally. I’d like to think off the back of this that such a basic plan with the ball was the game plan; defend for one another as energetically as you can, keep it simple and maintain possession.

    The problem was that though the majority of our sets were very simple there were still far too many errors. There also seems to be more tolerance of interference at the PTB over the last few weeks which really detracts from a speed based team like Saints.We will have to step up and offer more in the play offs but Friday night was about winning first and foremost with style unimportant. Mission accomplished.

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    As referees is the hot topic at the moment. I just remembered in the Cas game at half time James Child was surrounded by stewards and escorted off the field. Don't think I recall seeing that before to that extent , did anyone else notice it.

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