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    We will be full strength at Wembley bar any injuries on Thursday. So Richardson will miss out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge View Post
    Yet last season, tiredness and burn out were reasons given for failure. So we canít seem to win. Be interesting to see what team Warrington put out and if they rest players. Usually the week before Wembley teams capitulate really easily - didnít Leeds themselves thump us by 60 points one season the week before Wembley?
    Can Warrington afford to rest any against Wigan though? Them and Hull are breathing down their necks for 2nd place and a loss against The Pies would be pretty hard for them.......not a good fixture for them!! What a shame.......
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    Off the topic but a friend of mine who works for betfred admin has informed me the BETFRED TAXIS will be running in Manchester on grand final day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    Off the topic but a friend of mine who works for betfred admin has informed me the BETFRED TAXIS will be running in Manchester on grand final day
    Have you ever kept a thread on topic???!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Have you ever kept a thread on topic???!!

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    No,, but does it matter??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    No,, but does it matter??
    Just a little light hearted rib is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Just a little light hearted rib is all.

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    I know matey, what it is i dont have the right permissions apparently to start a thread,, so no idea what else to do lol

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    I reckon it will be the same half back pairing all the way to the final.

    Its not just goal kicking, coote did alot of kicking in general play, especially kicking for territory.

    Lomax and fages can kick but not to the same quality as Richardson.

    There is no chance coote will be up to speed for the final with no games prior to it.

    He will organise and play his game with ball in hand but kicks will be few and far between.

    I could see fages getting a bench spot if we have a full pack. It's always good to have a back on the bench for key games.

    It allows you to realign the side if a winger or center is injured.

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    Don't think Richardson will play in the final. Holbrook will go with his favoured half back partnership (Lomax and Fages) with Coote at full back and goal kicker. I think the only doubt at this stage will be whether Paolo is fit or not. If he's not you imagine Bentley or Ashworth will get the nod.

    The key against Leeds is to pick up no further injuries, which is why I have a feeling Lomax won't play. Coote, Lomax, Roby and Walmsley are absolutely key for us, moreso than anybody else.


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    Last year in both semi finals we lost, one of the reasons that was suggested for this was the fact that Fages didn't play, personally I think that had Fages played in the playoff semi final we would have won.

    I am not sure I can get onboard with any team suggestions that do not have Fages playing.

    JH is resting players with any sort of doubt, but we need consistency going into finals, expecting everything to "just come good on the day" I believe is a recipe for disaster

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    I think we have more than enough in the squad to beat Leeds. The fact of the matter is, the result this week is irrelevant. Hopefully no injuries, niggles or knocks picked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st. etrigan View Post
    Last year in both semi finals we lost, one of the reasons that was suggested for this was the fact that Fages didn't play, personally I think that had Fages played in the playoff semi final we would have won.

    I am not sure I can get onboard with any team suggestions that do not have Fages playing.

    JH is resting players with any sort of doubt, but we need consistency going into finals, expecting everything to "just come good on the day" I believe is a recipe for disaster
    Totally understand what you are saying,,, but i doubt there are many fans who dont think we'll win the cc and grand final

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    Totally understand what you are saying,,, but i doubt there are many fans who dont think we'll win the cc and grand final
    I am definitely not one of those, once you start believing you are unbeatable is exactly the time somebody shows you that you aren't. Are we playing incredibly well this season - absolutely, is it impossible for us to lose either or both finals - absolutely not.

    The way to remove complacency is hard work, keep to the game plan, get all of your combinations working at their optimum and be humble prior to the game. Don't give the opposition a reason to believe we are underestimating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st. etrigan View Post
    I am definitely not one of those, once you start believing you are unbeatable is exactly the time somebody shows you that you aren't. Are we playing incredibly well this season - absolutely, is it impossible for us to lose either or both finals - absolutely not.

    The way to remove complacency is hard work, keep to the game plan, get all of your combinations working at their optimum and be humble prior to the game. Don't give the opposition a reason to believe we are underestimating them.
    The strange but eminently possible thing is we could win the treble whilst having lost twice to the relegated team

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    I imagine these are the worst games for a coach. Field a weakened team and the first teamers go into the final rusty. Field a full strength team and risk someone picking up a knock and missing Wembley. The coach canít win. IMO heís done the right thing fielding a good side. The only players i would be tempted to rest at every opportunity would be Roby and Lomax. Lomax has had rotten luck with injuries over the years. I winced every time he took a tackle last Thursday. It would be tragic if he missed Wembley. I donít think heís ever been part of a major trophy winning 17.
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    I watched a couple of internationals at Leigh and I think it was Fages kicking the goals for France I am not sure but I think so.

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    Come to think about it I would not bet on being right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobbynator View Post
    Don't think Richardson will play in the final. Holbrook will go with his favoured half back partnership (Lomax and Fages) with Coote at full back and goal kicker.
    This is my only concern. We would be going into a major cup final with a goal kicker who hasn't been able to practice for 5 - 6 weeks!! That's a huge gamble. I can see the game being very close, and we MUST convert the four points into six. For me, in the CC final it has to be:

    Fullback: Coote
    Half backs: Lomax and Richardson
    On the bench: Fages

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint87 View Post
    This is my only concern. We would be going into a major cup final with a goal kicker who hasn't been able to practice for 5 - 6 weeks!! That's a huge gamble. I can see the game being very close, and we MUST convert the four points into six. For me, in the CC final it has to be:

    Fullback: Coote
    Half backs: Lomax and Richardson
    On the bench: Fages
    Its not a problem if we score plenty trys
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    Quote Originally Posted by warringtonsaint View Post
    Can Warrington afford to rest any against Wigan though? Them and Hull are breathing down their necks for 2nd place and a loss against The Pies would be pretty hard for them.......not a good fixture for them!! What a shame.......
    Spot on. If Warrington donít beat Wigan they may see their chance of a place in the GF slide down the pan.

    Iíd rest Lomax for Leeds. Starting to get worried about Cooteís fitness for the Cup Final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    I know matey, what it is i dont have the right permissions apparently to start a thread,, so no idea what else to do lol
    I think your lack of permissions only applies when not signed in. I’ve now derailed the thread further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suttoner View Post
    I think your lack of permissions only applies when not signed in. Iíve now derailed the thread further.
    But how could i post on here without being signed in???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    But how could i post on here without being signed in???
    If you leave an individual thread and go back to the list of threads, do you see a red box underneath and to the left hand side of the amber coloured advert that has, “+ Post New Thread”? If you have the box, I think you can start a new thread. Otherwise it’s one for the administrators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suttoner View Post
    If you leave an individual thread and go back to the list of threads, do you see a red box underneath and to the left hand side of the amber coloured advert that has, “+ Post New Thread”? If you have the box, I think you can start a new thread. Otherwise it’s one for the administrators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saint87 View Post
    This is my only concern. We would be going into a major cup final with a goal kicker who hasn't been able to practice for 5 - 6 weeks!! That's a huge gamble. I can see the game being very close, and we MUST convert the four points into six. For me, in the CC final it has to be:

    Fullback: Coote
    Half backs: Lomax and Richardson
    On the bench: Fages
    Its a fair point but he might have been practising in training for all we know. Holbrook was confident in his answer that he will be fit next week is so can't be that far off now. I imagine if the final was this week Coote would play.

    The tried and tested formula this year has been Coote, Lomax and Fages. If they're all fit that should be what we go with.


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