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    Default 19 man squad v Leeds

    https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2019/08/1...owles-returns/

    Knowles and Batchelor for Paulo and LMS.

    1. Jonny Lomax, 2. Tommy Makinson, 3. Kevin Naiqama, 4. Mark Percival, 5. Regan Grace, 6. Theo Fages, 7. Danny Richardson, 10. Luke Thompson, 11. Zeb Taia, 15. Morgan Knowles, 16. Kyle Amor, 17. Dom Peyroux, 19. Matty Lees, 20. Jack Ashworth, 21. Aaron Smith, 22. James Bentley, 24. Matty Costello, 25. Joe Batchelor, 29. Jack Welsby.
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    Difficult one to predict with Wembley next week but i’ll have a stab at the following:

    Welsby
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Lees
    Smith
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Taia
    Knowles

    Bentley
    Amor
    Ashworth
    Batchelor
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Difficult one to predict with Wembley next week but iíll have a stab at the following:

    Welsby
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Lees
    Smith
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Taia
    Knowles

    Bentley
    Amor
    Ashworth
    Batchelor
    Whoís kicking the goals from that team? Percy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Difficult one to predict with Wembley next week but i’ll have a stab at the following:

    Welsby
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Lees
    Smith
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Taia
    Knowles

    Bentley
    Amor
    Ashworth
    Batchelor
    Only issue is the lack of a recognised kicker

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    I’m not sure what team we will see. Whichever starts will make me think about who might not play in the final.
    So many connotations. If Coote is not fit does he go without a kicker? Does he drop Fages (remember JH is off at seasons end so does not have to think about upsetting players now) to accommodate Richardson?
    If he is considering Lomax at FB he needs to play him there on Thursday.
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    What are people's thoughts about keeping some consistency in our half back partnership? Goal kicking could be the difference between winning and losing at Wembley. Even if Coote makes it, he hasn't kicked a single goal for a good couple of weeks now. It has to be a huge concern and one that cannot be overlooked.

    I would be tempted to stick with Lomax at 6 and Richardson at 7. Yes, Richardson is far from the finished article and has had many critics, including myself at times, but he has a cool head when it comes to goal kicking. It's a gamble but one that I would be willing to accept. I would hate to lose the final because we missed the extra 2 pointers and any goal kicks from penalties.

    I accept that it would be tough on Fages. Maybe have him on the bench? Big decision for JH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undertheradar View Post
    Who’s kicking the goals from that team? Percy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by st. etrigan View Post
    Only issue is the lack of a recognised kicker
    I doesn't really matter does it? I wonder if Fages can kick goals. Or Thompson, he's good at most things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2019/08/1...owles-returns/

    Knowles and Batchelor for Paulo and LMS.

    1. Jonny Lomax, 2. Tommy Makinson, 3. Kevin Naiqama, 4. Mark Percival, 5. Regan Grace, 6. Theo Fages, 7. Danny Richardson, 10. Luke Thompson, 11. Zeb Taia, 15. Morgan Knowles, 16. Kyle Amor, 17. Dom Peyroux, 19. Matty Lees, 20. Jack Ashworth, 21. Aaron Smith, 22. James Bentley, 24. Matty Costello, 25. Joe Batchelor, 29. Jack Welsby.
    Personally I wouldn't play any of the likely 17 for the Cup Final. Must admit to being very worried about Coote and Walmsley however. Hope they are both fit.

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    Assuming Coote is coming back in at full back next week this should be a test run in the halves for his Wembley pairing so keep Welsby at full back for now. Then it comes down to Fages v Richardson and personally I think Richardson offers a little bit more of what we need at the moment than Fages does.

    Welsby, Makinson, Naiqama, Percival, Grace, Lomax, Richardson, Lees, Smith, Thompson, Taia, Peyroux, Knowles.
    Subs: Amor, Ashworth, Bentley, Batchelor/Fages
    Forwards win games. The backs decide by how much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Waa Womble View Post
    Assuming Coote is coming back in at full back next week this should be a test run in the halves for his Wembley pairing so keep Welsby at full back for now. Then it comes down to Fages v Richardson and personally I think Richardson offers a little bit more of what we need at the moment than Fages does.

    Welsby, Makinson, Naiqama, Percival, Grace, Lomax, Richardson, Lees, Smith, Thompson, Taia, Peyroux, Knowles.
    Subs: Amor, Ashworth, Bentley, Batchelor/Fages
    Pick Richardson over Fages and Warrington have a chance in my opinion.

    I think Fages’ performances get played down an awful lot. He’s done some brilliant things for us this season and after the game, no-one mentions them. Richardson does something in a game and it gets spoken about for weeks. Find it slightly odd I’ve got to be honest.
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    Who cares saint e , points don't matter , rest and injuries are the priorities .
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    Only issue is the lack of a recognised kicker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tez the Saint View Post
    Pick Richardson over Fages and Warrington have a chance in my opinion.

    I think Fages’ performances get played down an awful lot. He’s done some brilliant things for us this season and after the game, no-one mentions them. Richardson does something in a game and it gets spoken about for weeks. Find it slightly odd I’ve got to be honest.
    If there any doubts that Coote or Roby could break down in the final then Richardson or Fages to get a bench spot for me. Perhaps Fages starting when the first 20 mins a very tight defence is required, if we lose Coote or Roby then Lomax-Fages-Richardson can easily cover all the scenarios.

    For the Leeds game it will be interesting if Holbrook picks Welsby at full back then who is going to be the halves for this game.

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    Would have thought Adam Swift would have been drafted in to give Tommy a rest - unless heís injured of course. I would go with

    Welsby
    Makinson
    Percival
    Costello
    Grace
    Richardson
    Fages
    Thomson
    Smith
    Lees
    Zeb
    Peyroux
    Knowles

    Amor
    Ashworth
    Bentley
    Batchelor

    Rest Lomax and Kev N this week as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddened! View Post
    Personally I wouldn't play any of the likely 17 for the Cup Final. Must admit to being very worried about Coote and Walmsley however. Hope they are both fit.
    Personally, I don't like the idea of a 'week off' before a major final. I don't think it has worked in the past and can't see it being any different this time.

    For all of our remaining games we should be playing our first choice players. Only rest if someone has a slight niggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge View Post
    Would have thought Adam Swift would have been drafted in to give Tommy a rest - unless he’s injured of course. I would go with

    Welsby
    Makinson
    Percival
    Costello
    Grace
    Richardson
    Fages
    Thomson
    Smith
    Lees
    Zeb
    Peyroux
    Knowles

    Amor
    Ashworth
    Bentley
    Batchelor

    Rest Lomax and Kev N this week as well.
    Definitely agree about Lomax, I wince every time he ducks into a tackle,if anyone should be held back for WEMBLEY it's him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tez the Saint View Post
    Pick Richardson over Fages and Warrington have a chance in my opinion.

    I think Fages’ performances get played down an awful lot. He’s done some brilliant things for us this season and after the game, no-one mentions them. Richardson does something in a game and it gets spoken about for weeks. Find it slightly odd I’ve got to be honest.
    It would be very harsh on Fages, but if we lose the CC because we failed to convert the four pointers into six, then I can guarantee that people will be saying that Richardson should have played.

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    To be honest, even if we rest players in the cc final, we should still beat Warrington, we have the measure of them this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddened! View Post
    Personally I wouldn't play any of the likely 17 for the Cup Final. Must admit to being very worried about Coote and Walmsley however. Hope they are both fit.
    Everytime we've rested loads of players, we've been poop the next match. The team needs as much consistency as possible going into the final.... Ludicrous too rest most of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    To be honest, even if we rest players in the cc final, we should still beat Warrington, we have the measure of them this season
    IIRC we won the 3 league games last season and lost the play off game. Lets hope history doesn't repeat itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Willy View Post
    IIRC we won the 3 league games last season and lost the play off game. Lets hope history doesn't repeat itself.
    We are fitter and stronger than last season,, that ghost wont rear its ugly head this time around

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    Quote Originally Posted by newport dave View Post
    Everytime we've rested loads of players, we've been poop the next match. The team needs as much consistency as possible going into the final.... Ludicrous too rest most of the team.

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    Yet last season, tiredness and burn out were reasons given for failure. So we canít seem to win. Be interesting to see what team Warrington put out and if they rest players. Usually the week before Wembley teams capitulate really easily - didnít Leeds themselves thump us by 60 points one season the week before Wembley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge View Post
    Yet last season, tiredness and burn out were reasons given for failure. So we can’t seem to win. Be interesting to see what team Warrington put out and if they rest players. Usually the week before Wembley teams capitulate really easily - didn’t Leeds themselves thump us by 60 points one season the week before Wembley?
    Plus last season holbrook admitted he played some players who were carrying knocks, this year even if a player has a slight knock he wont play,,,, and we look so much better for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge View Post
    Yet last season, tiredness and burn out were reasons given for failure. So we canít seem to win. Be interesting to see what team Warrington put out and if they rest players. Usually the week before Wembley teams capitulate really easily - didnít Leeds themselves thump us by 60 points one season the week before Wembley?
    Plenty of players have been rested this season already. So don't need it now. We should be full steam ahead now to the GF. Players only rested if they have a niggle. Nothing to do with 'we can't seem to win' attitude. It's now the business end of the season and the players should playing for their lives and team spot at the CC final and GF, not being rested for the sake of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint87 View Post
    It would be very harsh on Fages, but if we lose the CC because we failed to convert the four pointers into six, then I can guarantee that people will be saying that Richardson should have played.
    I guess it depends on how fit Coote actually is. If it’s a situation where we’re injecting him up and he can’t kick or we feel that he won’t make it through the game, I think we’ve got to consider whether he should play. I don’t think you can play full back these days if you’re physically struggling lower body wise, there’s just too much running involved particularly in a cup final.
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