Does Justin Holbrook need to win a trophy/trophies to cement his legacy at the club?
Does Justin Holbrook need to win a trophy/trophies to cement his legacy at the club?
St Helens Rugby League Football Club
Probably. Holbrook really benefits from coming in after Cunningham, and I think will be remembered for a long time for being the coach that reforged the link between club and supporter that had been really damaged under KC. So, trophy or not he'll always have a place in our history for that.
However, I think that a 2 year spell is hard for anyone to create a genuine 'legacy' as well. We could win the double this season and at the end of the day JH will have one double to his name. Not 4 titles in 8 years, that kind of thing. Just one season were we won the lot. Does that make a legacy, I'm not sure.
More importantly, we need a trophy after being the most consistent team in the country for 2 years. To end up not winning either major trophy from here would be terrible for the whole clubs psyche really.
Most definitely, last season Holbrook himself said despite winning the LLS overall he thought it was a failure. But has 2 very good chances on the horizon so I think he would be relieved and happy to win one of the major trophies and the fans would be happy with that.
For me he has brought the entertaining mojo back to the Saints, most of the games have been pretty good with some excellent creative trys, making us fit and mobile in the pack has been a great asset for us this season
Obviously, or he’ll go down as a failure. Really we should win all 3, the LLS is as good as done and given how dominant we’ve been for two years I think he should leave with at least 1 of everything won in his time here.
Whilst there is no doubting his technical ability as a coach, if we do not win a trophy (or even both trophies) this year then there are questions over his ability to motivate and instill mental toughness in his players. You can be the best coach in the world technically, but what is the point if you cannot instill mental toughness in your players? We have lost 3 out 4 semi finals under him. However, I suppose there is an argument that we as a club has had this tag for years prior to his involvement, so you will never really know how much responsibility you can put on him for this.
I think it will be a huge failure, but I believe we will do better this year...
Can he not just be remembered for his comb over
This is an easy one - yes.
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Definitely IMO. Last year still hurts for me because it fell perfectly for us, bar Walmsley we had all our key players fit for the majority of the season, we had plenty of time to fix things up before the Warrington game but we just couldn’t get it right when it counted.
Even this year, a cup run of Huddersfield away, Wakefield at home and Halifax in a semi final is fairly generous. We’ve got to peak for 3 games this year essentially.
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https://www.redvee.net/justin-holbro...ve-his-legacy/
I've penned some thoughts on this on Redvee if anyone is interested.
Originally Posted by Despondent Dave
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Originally Posted by Despondent Dave
Yes.
We have a lot of youth coming through this team thanks to Holbrook. If we can get them winning finals experience it will do us good in the future to add to that trophy tally in ghe future.
That will be his legacy I believe.
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