He got a 12-month suspension back in 2013-14 for involvement in players at Cronulla taking illegal supplements. Then last year it was uncovered that during his period of suspension he had been essentially working for the club behind the scenes (advising on recruitment, etc) and he got an indefinite ban for that.
Last edited by Belgian Saint; 1st August 2019 at 18:28.
I don't watch much NRL so only know what I have read about him. In some ways what Flanagan did may be worse than what Barba did. There has to be some premeditation with condoning/allowing players to take steroids. I just don't think we need that sort of baggage. With regard to his lifetime ban for working on recruitment when he was banned, I think he was hard done to.
Last edited by Belgian Saint; 1st August 2019 at 20:42.
Im not keen on Flanagan. Even without his antics theirs just something about him im not keen on.
screaming in the family corner, scaring the kiddies
I don’t think it was steroids they were on, at least that wasn’t the language at the time IIRC
Still cheating but it was something else, although steroids does tend to work as a catch-all for all illegal PEDs these days
It's a complicated issue but there were 3 major issues with Flanagan (2 before he was caught out and 1 after).
#1 The peptides drug saga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronul...pplements_saga
#2 Salary Cap issues around that same time, which got self reported by the clubs new CEO.
Then #3 was getting caught liasing with the club despite being banned over the peptides saga, which earned him an indefinite suspension.
In short this has all clouded how much success he actually had as a coach, and some fans have been constantly wary of this.
I think you guys have the sort of roster that could work with rookie coaches (like O'Brien, Demetriou, Craig Fitzgibbon), or even an NRL coach thats had issues cracking back into NRL.
Someone like an Anthony Griffin, Geoff Toovey, or even a Kevin Moore.
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Read this nonsense. A whole article based on someone guessing who Mike Rush will interview
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...564a61af520d14
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Anthony Griffin linked in that article; any good?
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/sha...-league-144524
Interesting listen, we could be used as a stepping stone again.
I don't mind a promising coach from the NRL coming here, delivering success then moving onto a more plum NRL post.
The problem we've had is that our coaching recruitment has been iffy, especially post-Anderson, until Holbrook.
In fact, if we look at our coches from 96 onwards, there's an interesting pattern, which shows we've had most success when giving the role to young, promising coaches who have cut their coaching teeth as assistants in the NRL, and have had no 'tainting' by having coached in SL
McRae (first head coach position), Millward (had spent just 1 season with Championship Leigh) and Holbrook fit that criteria. Anderson was obviously a much more proven head coach, but still had had no experience of coaching in SL.
Even the one British coach we've had who has been a success in terms of silverware - Hanley - was in his first head coaching role.
In contrast, our failures have been Potter (learned his coaching at Bratfud under Elliot, coached Catalans); Simmons (51 y/o when he joined us, having previously been coach at Hull & Penrith); Cunningham (nothing to add...).
Brown is I guess an anomaly, given he previously head-coached St George and Huddersfield (although we won SL in 2014 through a combination of many factors falling into place for us along the way right up until Genkul Benneh Floower's red mist idiocy)
I think we're all a bit worried because we know that, after a period of poor-coach wilderness, we're back at the top of the tree and I guess we all realise getting the next appointment right isn't a foregone conclusion.
The Herald Sun reported today that apparently Shane Flanagan is favourite, with Anthony Griffin being considered. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...564a61af520d14
Not that I would take their word for it
Personally, although Flanagan is an NRL winning coach, who undoubtedly gets a group of players well motivated I don't think he would be the right fit for Saints.
Griffin certainly wouldn't. Penrith had all the potential in the world and he took them no-where.
As others have said we should to be looking at the next NRL coaches in waiting who are hungry to succeed but also a good fit for the culture of the club and the brand of rugby that Saints play.
For me Demetriou or O'Brien would be the best fit for Saints.
People have said that Demetriou working under Bennett is a bad thing but he also was an assistant under Paul Green when they won the NRL, coached the Illawarra Cutters to a premiership and has experience in England too.
O'Brien would also be an excellent choice. Has done a solid apprenticeship under Craig Bellamy and this year under Trent Robinson.
Ben and Shane Walker would also be very interesting as they have implemented an extremely attacking brand of rugby at the Ipswich Jets.
Just my twopenneth worth
I think after the Holbrook appointment I’ve got trust in the club to get the right man.