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    I wonder if the Australian assistants are not keen due to our position.

    There is little for them to gain in taking over a top SL side. If they want to return to the NRL for a top job they need to prove themselves and taking over the best team in the competition will not do that.

    Any success will be attributed to the platform laid by Justin. So are we more likely to get an assistant who has reached the end of what he can do in Australia and is looking for a more permanent appointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareshadows View Post
    I wonder if the Australian assistants are not keen due to our position.

    There is little for them to gain in taking over a top SL side. If they want to return to the NRL for a top job they need to prove themselves and taking over the best team in the competition will not do that.

    Any success will be attributed to the platform laid by Justin. So are we more likely to get an assistant who has reached the end of what he can do in Australia and is looking for a more permanent appointment.

    I'm not sure, I think it's still an attractive job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside View Post
    Why is this year a poor league season? People say that every year, a team runs away with it is proof of a poor season, next year teams being close will be the justification, absolute rubbish imo, there are many good players and I get fed up with people knocking these lads taking the field every week for our entertainment

    I don't believe Watson is the right person for us, as good as he has been it doesn't automatically mean he will be good for us
    For me its been a poor season because Leeds, Warrington, Wigan, Castleford, Catalans and Hull FC have all been absolutely terrible. Its unusual for only one team to play well, theres usually at least couple near the top performing week in, week out

    This year weve only had Saints playing anywhere near to potential, making it a poor league. Theyve all got their various reasons for their under performance but there will be very few sets of supporters happy with league season this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareshadows View Post
    I wonder if the Australian assistants are not keen due to our position.

    There is little for them to gain in taking over a top SL side. If they want to return to the NRL for a top job they need to prove themselves and taking over the best team in the competition will not do that.

    Any success will be attributed to the platform laid by Justin. So are we more likely to get an assistant who has reached the end of what he can do in Australia and is looking for a more permanent appointment.
    Again how do we know they're not interested? People are reading far too much into micro snippets of information.


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    I will agree though that the vacant position at Newcastle probably makes our task harder now

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro74 View Post
    For me it’s been a poor season because Leeds, Warrington, Wigan, Castleford, Catalans and Hull FC have all been absolutely terrible. It’s unusual for only one team to play well, there’s usually at least couple near the top performing week in, week out

    This year we’ve only had Saints playing anywhere near to potential, making it a poor league. They’ve all got their various reasons for their under performance but there will be very few sets of supporters happy with league season this year
    Part of that is because its been an injury ravaged season for most team 2 years on the trot. For Saints its looks as though our fitness and conditioning model is top notch, Holbrook went to America pre season and looked at the conditioning and player to fan relationships. he tweaked it into our structure and its paid huge dividends this year. Most other teams are still playing the power game instead of having athletic mobility, we adapted the substituting rule very well, our line speed has been consistently high this year whilst other clubs can only do it in short periods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    Part of that is because its been an injury ravaged season for most team 2 years on the trot. For Saints its looks as though our fitness and conditioning model is top notch, Holbrook went to America pre season and looked at the conditioning and player to fan relationships. he tweaked it into our structure and its paid huge dividends this year. Most other teams are still playing the power game instead of having athletic mobility, we adapted the substituting rule very well, our line speed has been consistently high this year whilst other clubs can only do it in short periods.
    You've hit the nail on the head there fitness conditioning able to keep the line speed high longer than any other team you've been way ahead of the other sides this season

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    Nathan Brown is available -leaving his current job at the end of the season!

    https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post...end-of-season/

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    Nathan Brown is free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint from Bury View Post
    Nathan Brown is available -leaving his current job at the end of the season!

    https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post...end-of-season/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    Thoughts? Would you have him back?

    Personally I wouldn't even though he gave us the only grand final success for a while


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    No. I wouldn't want Brown back despite a GF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    Part of that is because its been an injury ravaged season for most team 2 years on the trot. For Saints its looks as though our fitness and conditioning model is top notch, Holbrook went to America pre season and looked at the conditioning and player to fan relationships. he tweaked it into our structure and its paid huge dividends this year. Most other teams are still playing the power game instead of having athletic mobility, we adapted the substituting rule very well, our line speed has been consistently high this year whilst other clubs can only do it in short periods.
    I'm not sure it's completely down to fitness and conditioning though, there's also a bit of luck involved. Just to take Wigan for example, Tom Davies double dislocation and break of his ankle, Manfredi ACL, Farrell and O'Loughlin pec injuries, Tautai and Hamlin, stupidity.

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    Saints wouldn’t offer Brown the coaching job would they. I think that would be a dreadful idea. Just imagine if they did and his assistant coach would be former saints supremo Kieron Cunningham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pramtown View Post
    Saints wouldn’t offer Brown the coaching job would they. I think that would be a dreadful idea. Just imagine if they did and his assistant coach would be former saints supremo Kieron Cunningham.
    Two of a kind. Brown always came across as a bit aloof and arrogant, at least he didn't belittle the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Two of a kind. fans Brown always came across as a bit aloof and arrogant, at least he didn't belittle the fans.
    He also dressed like he was going to a Saturday night fever party.

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    I would rather Watson or Marshall got the job than Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues Gallery View Post
    I'm not sure it's completely down to fitness and conditioning though, there's also a bit of luck involved. Just to take Wigan for example, Tom Davies double dislocation and break of his ankle, Manfredi ACL, Farrell and O'Loughlin pec injuries, Tautai and Hamlin, stupidity.
    i agree there is luck involved all sides pick up injuries cas have had gale and foster out all season shenton moors half the season ellis played his first game on sunday eden hasnt played much either, i just think the conditioning plays such a big part these days and saints seem to be a step ahead of most teams with that

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    Brown won a Grand Final without half backs. We lost Wilkin, Lomax and Walsh (who was walking MOS before his injury) to season ending injuries. He made the best out of bad situations. We won that Grand Final with LMS at centre, Wellens and Flanagan as HB’s and Jordan Turner at 13.

    I’m not saying I’d have him back because I don’t think at this moment in time he is what we need but he wasn’t as dreadful as some people make out. We won a LLS and Grand Final under him, which hadn’t happened for us since 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    He also dressed like he was going to a Saturday night fever party.
    You have to love those shirt collars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pramtown View Post
    Saints wouldn’t offer Brown the coaching job would they. I think that would be a dreadful idea. Just imagine if they did and his assistant coach would be former saints supremo Kieron Cunningham.
    You might be surprised then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Two of a kind. Brown always came across as a bit aloof and arrogant, at least he didn't belittle the fans.
    I love the guy me. Won us a grand final with no halfbacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintMCMXCIV View Post
    Brown won a Grand Final without half backs. We lost Wilkin, Lomax and Walsh (who was walking MOS before his injury) to season ending injuries. He made the best out of bad situations. We won that Grand Final with LMS at centre, Wellens and Flanagan as HB’s and Jordan Turner at 13.

    I’m not saying I’d have him back because I don’t think at this moment in time he is what we need but he wasn’t as dreadful as some people make out. We won a LLS and Grand Final under him, which hadn’t happened for us since 2006.
    Despite the hard work of the players for 80 minutes that GF came down to one second of inspiration and understanding between Roby, Wellens and Tommy M. We were right at the front when Wellens gave a little nod to Roby and to TM. Roby gave him the ball and Tommy headed for the post. The rest is history. Brown may have won a GF but for me that win came on the back of " never give up" from all the players, and that one moment between those 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    Despite the hard work of the players for 80 minutes that GF came down to one second of inspiration and understanding between Roby, Wellens and Tommy M. We were right at the front when Wellens gave a little nod to Roby and to TM. Roby gave him the ball and Tommy headed for the post. The rest is history. Brown may have won a GF but for me that win came on the back of " never give up" from all the players, and that one moment between those 3.
    I can pick out a few other moments from that day. The first tackle of the match from Soliola/Masoe. The Makinson tackle on Farrell. There were a few critical moments in that game. I remember thinking “oh what’s he doing” when Wellens put that kick in as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintMCMXCIV View Post
    but he wasn’t as dreadful as some people make out. We won a LLS and Grand Final under him, which hadn’t happened for us since 2006.
    A good coach, who was forced through injuries to chop and change dramatically, but still won the LLS and GF.

    But it wasn't a great brand of rugby in the main, too much percentage stuff. When Cunningham took over, I remember thinking in his first few games "I like this new, more adventurous approach to play!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintMCMXCIV View Post
    I can pick out a few other moments from that day. The first tackle of the match from Soliola/Masoe. The Makinson tackle on Farrell. There were a few critical moments in that game. I remember thinking “oh what’s he doing” when Wellens put that kick in as well!
    Just a lot of hard work from players that much of the time seemed to be just covering the field, rather than a specific position. Happy days.

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