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    Given him this far into the season to impress. Wanted him to get better on harder pitches, but I’m sorry, he is poor. Not up to Saints standard and arguably not up to SL standards. I’m not even sure what his position is. He runs with no purpose and he is touted as some ball handling 13 but he isn’t. I think it is a three year deal as well so really hoping for the home sick, mutual agreement departure at the end of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laner View Post
    Given him this far into the season to impress. Wanted him to get better on harder pitches, but I’m sorry, he is poor. Not up to Saints standard and arguably not up to SL standards. I’m not even sure what his position is. He runs with no purpose and he is touted as some ball handling 13 but he isn’t. I think it is a three year deal as well so really hoping for the home sick, mutual agreement departure at the end of the season.
    Early doors I could see why Holbrook signed him to add a bit of composure when things get tough in the middle but he's become very much a lazy player, with Tai injured and Knowles missing a couple of games he needed to step up but he's playing himself to be outside of the 17 at the moment. Bentley with more games under his belt should be replacing Paulo as we will have plenty of players desperate for that Wembley shirt.

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    I agree, I don't see anything good in his game. In fact I can only remember him having one decent game all season, Catalan away I think it was.

    Waste of money to me, we'd be better playing LMS at 13 if Knowles is out and put Bentley at SR.

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    I think he’s been underwhelming on the whole. There’s been a couple of games where he’s done a tidy job off the bench when we’ve needed a bit of composure but he’s certainly not put his mark on things. The trouble is he was brought in to play the ‘Wilkin’ role and I don’t think anyone else fits that mould so we would have to change our style of play if he was dropped

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    Have we at last found our scapegoat? It's been a strange Saints' season this without a scapegoat for us to lynch and burn every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forward ref View Post
    Have we at last found our scapegoat? It's been a strange Saints' season this without a scapegoat for us to lynch and burn every week.
    Are people not allowed to discuss a players performances? I haven't read a single word saying those performances have cost points, games or anything else so why would you suggest people are making him out to be a scapegoat?

    Paulo hasn't been great this year and it's fair to say so. But Dom Peyroux had a poor first year and hopefully the same will be said of Paulo


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    Are people not allowed to discuss a players performances? I haven't read a single word saying those performances have cost points, games or anything else so why would you suggest people are making him out to be a scapegoat?

    Paulo hasn't been great this year and it's fair to say so. But Dom Peyroux had a poor first year and hopefully the same will be said of Paulo


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    To be fair I’m not sure the language is quite right in this thread, he’s not been poor in any game I can remember, I just can’t remember any particular games where he did anything above ordinary. I suspect he brings things like leadership and experience in the group and other things we as fans don’t get to see, but that’s only a guess. For me his best game for us was Magic Weekend where he played prop, and his ball handling offered us something different to Walmsley/ Thompson, but suspect it’d be figured out pretty quickly if it became a regular thing.

    It will be interesting to see if Bentley can keep his place ahead of him when Taia and Knowles return

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    Quote Originally Posted by forward ref View Post
    Have we at last found our scapegoat? It's been a strange Saints' season this without a scapegoat for us to lynch and burn every week.
    Scapegoat for what? Purely a comment about his ability, a highly paid member of our squad and somebody who is taking up an overseas quota spot. He completely underwhelms. Perhaps a better way to put it is that if he wasn’t playing would we miss him? Not at all in my opinion and it would give Bentley, Lees, etc more game time if he wasn’t there.

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    He’s been pants. Im glad we moved Wilkin on, but im not sure Paulo does anything that Wilkin couldn’t do. I worry that he’s over for a holiday.
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    I think it’s unfair to judge him against the likes of Taia or Peyroux as he doesn’t appear to have played positionally in the second row (ie just inside the centre/winger). Instead he is used closer to the ruck but in comparison to Knowles his passing does not often create opportunities wide out as as he usually crabs slightly before giving a short, lateral pass to another forward running off him. Knowles, however, runs at the line but usually ignores the short pass to give the ball to a half looping behind with the ball then being moved to the edge. For me Paulo hasn’t been absolute rubbish in attack but his go forward and creativity have not been outstanding. Defensively, he tackles well and works hard within the structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forward ref View Post
    Have we at last found our scapegoat? It's been a strange Saints' season this without a scapegoat for us to lynch and burn every week.
    Not so much a scapegoat. More as pointing out his blatant lack of being arsed. Percival hurtling into their defensive line trying to get us up the pitch time after time & him hiding. He's way below par & needs a rocket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Not so much a scapegoat. More as pointing out his blatant lack of being arsed. Percival hurtling into their defensive line trying to get us up the pitch time after time & him hiding. He's way below par & needs a rocket
    Spot on Ralph. It is infuriating when a big man hides why the smaller men do yards. To me, Paulo looks like a very poor mans Tony Puletua.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Not so much a scapegoat. More as pointing out his blatant lack of being arsed. Percival hurtling into their defensive line trying to get us up the pitch time after time & him hiding. He's way below par & needs a rocket
    Totally irrelevant comparison....hes a steady Eddie who also looks after the young lads too...remember Rat boy behind the sticks at easter getting thrown over the boards? Hes not flashy thats true and had a bad one on Sat...but Holbrook is no mug. Suppose hes the Phil Neville of our team....a players player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Day View Post
    I think he’s been underwhelming on the whole. There’s been a couple of games where he’s done a tidy job off the bench when we’ve needed a bit of composure but he’s certainly not put his mark on things. The trouble is he was brought in to play the ‘Wilkin’ role and I don’t think anyone else fits that mould so we would have to change our style of play if he was dropped
    I think Knowles has been excellent at taking the ball up to the line and passing, often at first receiver like Wilkin used to. The effectiveness of Knowles is the main reason Paulo has been limited to coming off the bench in the 2nd half most games.
    Forwards win games. The backs decide by how much.

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    I don't think he has been poor or lazy, he is just bang average. He has failed to leave a mark on the team and isn't really missed when he isn't on the pitch. Seems good with his hands and while he will be playing to instruction he needs to put his head down and carry the ball a bit more like Knowles who (i don't have stats) seems to take more carries while the ball also goes through his hands.

    Not every NRL player is a superstar but you would assume he is on big coin and there is an argument that we should be getting more out of him.

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    First impressions were he was bang average, not changed my view.


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    He seems to have a calming influence when he comes on , IMO.

    Few times this year we've been jittery, forcing the ball out wide when we haven't earned the right to. He seems to calm everything down in the middle. He ain't a trail blazer, but solid enough when needed.

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    Going forward he is not great. I know people say good hands but you have to make the opposition guess a little.

    If he had a

    Fend
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    Some tackle busting runs

    Then you could mix that up with good hands, but he does tend to squeeze the space out wide and offload well before the tackle.

    He maybe bought for defensive qualities, but if that's the case he at the minimum needs to cart the ball in hard on a couple of occasions.

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    Thought he had a good game tonight, really got stuck in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Day View Post
    Thought he had a good game tonight, really got stuck in
    I've got him in my top 3 for this week, I think he also made some decent metres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    I've got him in my top 3 for this week, I think he also made some decent metres.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Day View Post
    Thought he had a good game tonight, really got stuck in
    yes ,for once he was prepared to run the ball in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laner View Post
    Given him this far into the season to impress. Wanted him to get better on harder pitches, but I’m sorry, he is poor. Not up to Saints standard and arguably not up to SL standards. I’m not even sure what his position is. He runs with no purpose and he is touted as some ball handling 13 but he isn’t. I think it is a three year deal as well so really hoping for the home sick, mutual agreement departure at the end of the season.
    I said at the time and I will stick by it. Because of the quality of our young forwards coming through I would go as far to say that we really do not need forward imports. Backs yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert80 View Post
    I said at the time and I will stick by it. Because of the quality of our young forwards coming through I would go as far to say that we really do not need forward imports. Backs yes.
    Perhaps not imports, but we need older heads to be around our fine young forwards (and backs). Paulo does this well IMO.

    Obviously he's not a wrecking ball, but JH seems to think that's ok. He picks him often enough!

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    I was just disappointed that they scored their try at the end. It would have meant we would have gone two full games without conceding a try.

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