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    Can't see past Lomax fages Richardson myself.

    Danny will do a good job for us and this is a perfect example of why he's in the team. Think reacher has probably spelt it out the best. Plus we can't go back to Percy kicking, it's not just that he misses a few I think it has a knock on effect with his confidence during the rest of the game.

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    Same here we need Danny in for this one this is precisely what he is for, back up half back and Goal Kicker Johnny is a proven full back and both wings in full strike mode CoyS

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareshadows View Post
    I don't think Makinson at full back was the key factor in that game. Or are you suggesting the key to winning a gf is to lose all our halves and play second rowers in most decision making roles.
    I'm saying he's played there before in a high pressure game and he performed brilliantly. He's arguably a much better player now than he was in 2014 so its not much of a risk to move him there for the SF against Halifax

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    Lomax has been our best player this year, playing at 6. Know he has 1 on his back but he is an out and out 6 now, and I have real worries about how his knees would hold up playing FB now.I'd keep the half back pairing as it is, and have either Makinson or Welsby at FB. Know Welsby has been a bit hit and miss but think he should be given the chance. Don't think he can be judged too much on Sunday's game, and remember him having a blinder against Catalan on Easter Monday - was our best player that day for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by The frenchman View Post
    Can't see past Lomax fages Richardson myself..
    Play Elton Welsby. We're playing Halifax. If we can't beat them with one kid in the lineup, there's something wrong.

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    The only thing that worries me slightly about Richardson coming in is this: I can only think of one way in which Halifax can beat us, and thatís if we overplay and gift them loads of territory and possession. Thatís something weíre much more prone to when heís running the plays.

    But it still seems the best choice - we should have enough to still comfortably beat Fax even if weíre not quite on it, and without Coote or Richardson we donít have much of a kicking game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside View Post
    Lomax to full back for me

    I only saw highlights of the London game but was disappointed when DR made an excellent break and rather than use the inside man he dummied and went himself losing the ball. It was an moment of greed and self interest when his position requires him to be selfless at times
    Beat me to it he should have passed the ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddened! View Post
    Play Elton Welsby. We're playing Halifax. If we can't beat them with one kid in the lineup, there's something wrong.
    Good call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddened! View Post
    Play Elton Welsby. We're playing Halifax. If we can't beat them with one kid in the lineup, there's something wrong.
    I think there's been enough talk of picking weakened sides this past week. Go with your best, what if coote is out for a while. We need to start building the combinations.

    Sorry but welsby's place at the moment is in games like last week.

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    Will coote be fit for the grand final in October,, presuming we get there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    Will coote be fit for the grand final in October,, presuming we get there?

    What???

    How serious is his injury?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    What???

    How serious is his injury?????
    Don't worry Mancunian just likes to post questions nobody else is thinking of

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    Quote Originally Posted by The frenchman View Post
    Don't worry Mancunian just likes to post questions nobody else is thinking of
    He's out for the halufax game so just enquired as to how long he will be out for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancunian Saint View Post
    He's out for the halufax game so just enquired as to how long he will be out for?
    Ask how long is he out for then. What you've written makes people think you've heard it's a bad injury and you're unsure if he will make old Trafford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    For the sake of continuity in terms of style of play, we simply canít play Makinson at 1. He doesnít have the right attributes to be a ball playing full back.
    If continuity is your primary concern then surely the last thing you do is change your half back combination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Surveyor View Post
    If continuity is your primary concern then surely the last thing you do is change your half back combination?
    Continuity of our style of play, yes. I think Richardson at 6 and Lomax at 1 causes far less disruption to our game plan and our style of play than Makinson at 1, for the reasons stated previously. We would have to change our style of play with Makinson at 1 but we wouldnít with Lomax there.
    I understand your point about keeping the Fages/Lomax partnership together in an ideal world but seeing as there is such fluidity between 6 and 1 nowadays I donít think itís a particularly big leap for Lomax. Itís a position heís played in many many times before. Also Richardson has played half back with Fages many times before too. They are all being asked to play in positions that will come naturally. That isnít the case with Makinson at 1.

    To put it simply, I think Richardson is far more suited to playing at half back in this team than Makinson is to playing at 1 in this team, if that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 49er View Post
    The decision needs to be made without any reference to the fact that Ďitís only Halifaxí. I just canít see beyond Lomax at FB and DR next to Fages. Least disruptive option and we are not compromising the FB position.
    Of course we should be strong enough regardless of who plays where, but if we see an Ďunusualí selection for this game I would question ask does JH get the fitters in big games?
    Least disrupted? You must be having a laugh. Nothing could be more disruptive than playing Richardson.

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    The least disruptive move is Welsby to fullback as itís just a straight swap for Coote but I think thatís the riskiest move given his performances against London this season. Putting Richardson in is by far the most disruptive move as it means Lomax and Fages move positions to accommodate it. Itís a difficult one as there has to be doubts as to whether Welsby can handle the pressure but Iím not sure Richardson should be anywhere near a semi final given his performances in them last season. Not to mention, Fages and Richardson is a terrible partnership. Richardson did put a post on social media saying big week coming up, so from that Iíd assume heís starting. Given the level of opposition it shouldnít make any difference either way.

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    Richardson this season - once he'd shook the rust off in his first game - has played very well. He was central to our best performance of the year, beating Wire at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parky151277 View Post
    Iím sure I read that he went for a scan last week? The fact that heís having another scan today is a bit worrying. Letís hope itís nothing too serious.
    Donít think heís had it yet. I imagine itís a precaution because heís had an ACL injury before. With the way Holbrook was talking about it, I canít imagine heíll be out for more than a few weeks. Not like weíll need him until the final anyway.

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    Richardson is a capable half. Plus he can kick goals. Can't go into a semi final with no decent goalkicker, regardless of who you're up against
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    I’d stick with the continuity in the halves & with us playing a Championship side would love to see us throw Welsby in at full back. The exposure in such a massive game will bring him on massively. I think he is the best young kid we’ve got waiting to step up. He’s an elegant runner, he must have broke the line against Cas in the Wigan curtain raiser everytime he touched the ball. If Richardson is likely to be leaving with Theo signing a new deal then I would look at Welsby getting some
    experience. He will be a massive star at Saints in the future, not that I am writing Danny off but in all likelihood it looks like he will depart at the end of the season. Feels like a Briers scenario but Danny is too good to sit in the stands for the next 2-3 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    Richardson this season - once he'd shook the rust off in his first game - has played very well. He was central to our best performance of the year, beating Wire at home.
    And apart from a bit of a dud kick, he played well against Wigan on good Friday.

    Lomax can play full back. Stick Richardson in the team alongside Fages.





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    Makinson cannot pass the ball. In the plays Saints pivots are Lomax and Coote alongside Theo. Lomax and Theo can still do the same from FB and SO and Danny knows the plays and has experience in big games. Makinson is a finisher not a creator. Leave him where he is our main threat to the opposition try line. I don’t think we should take Halifax lightly. After all, this is their cup final! Why risk Welsby in a game as important as this? I know Danny has his faults but we need a proven goal kicker on Sat. Go with tried and tested as opposed to giving a young lad a chance to either be a star or have a mare. Too risky for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The frenchman View Post
    Ask how long is he out for then. What you've written makes people think you've heard it's a bad injury and you're unsure if he will make old Trafford.
    That's what I did ask OK? Read my question properly,, and it's not the way I asked the question, it's the way you understood it

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