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    Default 19 man squad v Wigan

    https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2019/07/1...-friday-derby/

    Roby and Smith in for Costello and Paulo (the latter is injured).

    St.Helens 19 man squad

    1. Jonny Lomax, 2. Tommy Makinson, 3. Kevin Naiqama, 4. Mark Percival, 5. Regan Grace, 6. Theo Fages, 8. Alex Walmsley, 9. James Roby, 10. Luke Thompson, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook 15. Morgan Knowles, 16. Kyle Amor, 17. Dom Peyroux, 18. Adam Swift, 19. Matty Lees, 20. Jack Ashworth, 21. Aaron Smith, 22. James Bentley, 23. Lachlan Coote.
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    Swift and Smith to miss out I think, all being well.

    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Knowles
    LMS

    Bentley
    Lees
    Ashworth
    Amor
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Swift and Smith to miss out I think, all being well.

    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Knowles
    LMS

    Bentley
    Lees
    Ashworth
    Amor
    Agreed. Even if some concern re Roby with Bentley (and Knowles) in he can step in but offers more than Smith elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Swift and Smith to miss out I think, all being well.

    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Knowles
    LMS

    Bentley
    Lees
    Ashworth
    Amor
    I'd have Bentley starting and Roby coming off the bench, we all know how the first 20 can be, not that Roby won't put his hand up, we know he will but he probably doesn't need that first game back. (cue him scoring within minutes).

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    Wondered why Paulo was out, then I actually read the article. Ignore this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon Sexton View Post
    Wondered why Paulo was out, then I actually read the article. Ignore this.
    Sorry mate I didn’t want to just copy and paste the whole thing. Will edit my original post.
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    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Thompson
    Bentley
    Peyroux
    Knowles

    LMS
    Lees
    Ashworth
    Amor or Smith

    Bentley will do a good defensive job out wide and Knowles is much better in the middle

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    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Knowles
    LMS

    Amor
    Lees
    Ashworth
    Bentley or Smith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    I'd have Bentley starting and Roby coming off the bench, we all know how the first 20 can be, not that Roby won't put his hand up, we know he will but he probably doesn't need that first game back. (cue him scoring within minutes).
    I'd agree with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Swift and Smith to miss out I think, all being well.

    Coote
    Makinson
    Naiqama
    Percival
    Grace
    Lomax
    Fages
    Walmsley
    Roby
    Thompson
    Peyroux
    Knowles
    LMS

    Bentley
    Lees
    Ashworth
    Amor
    I don't think this will be far off. I would prefer to see Knowles at 13, but without Taia he is probably our best option at left SR.

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    First Saints v Wigan game I'll have missed since 2009. I feel absolutely sick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    First Saints v Wigan game I'll have missed since 2009. I feel absolutely sick
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    I would guess that the reason Smith is there maybe that Roby needs a late fitness test.

    If Roby is fit I agree with the idea of starting with Bentley then ease Roby into it.

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    Do we need Roby back for this?

    If he needs a run out give him the last 20 minutes of the game. Whether we win or lose is pretty irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Grouse View Post
    I would guess that the reason Smith is there maybe that Roby needs a late fitness test.

    If Roby is fit I agree with the idea of starting with Bentley then ease Roby into it.
    Whoever plays in the 17 be it Roby or Smith, I would still give Bentley the No 9 spot for those tough first 20 mins. Let Roby or Smith play the 2nd + 3rd quarters and then see were we are in the game for the last quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareshadows View Post
    Do we need Roby back for this?

    If he needs a run out give him the last 20 minutes of the game. Whether we win or lose is pretty irrelevant.
    I don’t think it’s ever irrelevant whether we beat Wigan or not. Nor would I ever want the team to have that attitude.

    I agree that a defeat wouldn’t harm us too much in terms of our league position, but a defeat to Wigan is never irrelevant for me or for most of the 18,000 people who will be there tomorrow.
    Plus, a win for Wigan would not only give them confidence should we play them again later in the year, it would also boost their top 5 chances which could come back to bite us too.

    In no way is the outcome of tomorrow night irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I don’t think it’s ever irrelevant whether we beat Wigan or not. Nor would I ever want the team to have that attitude.

    I agree that a defeat wouldn’t harm us too much in terms of our league position, but a defeat to Wigan is never irrelevant for me or for most of the 18,000 people who will be there tomorrow.
    Plus, a win for Wigan would not only give them confidence should we play them again later in the year, it would also boost their top 5 chances which could come back to bite us too.

    In no way is the outcome of tomorrow night irrelevant.
    Absolutely correct.

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    I’m inclined to agree with TYG a Saints v Wigan Derby is never irrelevant no matter what sky thinks, besides we need to halt there current march up the table and put there fans back in there box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I donít think itís ever irrelevant whether we beat Wigan or not. Nor would I ever want the team to have that attitude.

    I agree that a defeat wouldnít harm us too much in terms of our league position, but a defeat to Wigan is never irrelevant for me or for most of the 18,000 people who will be there tomorrow.
    Plus, a win for Wigan would not only give them confidence should we play them again later in the year, it would also boost their top 5 chances which could come back to bite us too.

    In no way is the outcome of tomorrow night irrelevant.
    Agree 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I donít think itís ever irrelevant whether we beat Wigan or not. Nor would I ever want the team to have that attitude.

    I agree that a defeat wouldnít harm us too much in terms of our league position, but a defeat to Wigan is never irrelevant for me or for most of the 18,000 people who will be there tomorrow.
    Plus, a win for Wigan would not only give them confidence should we play them again later in the year, it would also boost their top 5 chances which could come back to bite us too.

    In no way is the outcome of tomorrow night irrelevant.
    Agreed. I hope we blow them of the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I don’t think it’s ever irrelevant whether we beat Wigan or not. Nor would I ever want the team to have that attitude.

    I agree that a defeat wouldn’t harm us too much in terms of our league position, but a defeat to Wigan is never irrelevant for me or for most of the 18,000 people who will be there tomorrow.
    Plus, a win for Wigan would not only give them confidence should we play them again later in the year, it would also boost their top 5 chances which could come back to bite us too.

    In no way is the outcome of tomorrow night irrelevant.
    Dead right.

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    I'll add my voice to the chorus of agreement. Tomorrow is a real opportunity to twist the knife, and I hope we take it with relish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I don’t think it’s ever irrelevant whether we beat Wigan or not. Nor would I ever want the team to have that attitude.

    I agree that a defeat wouldn’t harm us too much in terms of our league position, but a defeat to Wigan is never irrelevant for me or for most of the 18,000 people who will be there tomorrow.
    Plus, a win for Wigan would not only give them confidence should we play them again later in the year, it would also boost their top 5 chances which could come back to bite us too.

    In no way is the outcome of tomorrow night irrelevant.
    Spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    I donít think itís ever irrelevant whether we beat Wigan or not. Nor would I ever want the team to have that attitude.

    I agree that a defeat wouldnít harm us too much in terms of our league position, but a defeat to Wigan is never irrelevant for me or for most of the 18,000 people who will be there tomorrow.
    Plus, a win for Wigan would not only give them confidence should we play them again later in the year, it would also boost their top 5 chances which could come back to bite us too.

    In no way is the outcome of tomorrow night irrelevant.
    Iím a bit late to this but I agree with you 100%.

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    I mean it should be irrelevant in terms of how many minutes Roby should play and when he should play them.

    If it was a final or a knockout game then the result is key and you keep him going as long as possible.

    But if we are down by 6 tomorrow night I would hope we spell Roby as planned, rather than just keeping him on to help win the game, but risking any recovery.

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