Whenever McManus and Holbrook had their discussion it was before The Dogs strung together another 4 losses to go with the other 7 this year which dove-tails into the 16 last year to give Pay a 12-27 record. In March The Dogs extended Pay by another year in an inexplicable hope of giving him some security transferring to better performances. By June they knew that didn't work and they'd seen enough. That's why Hill was in Britain in July.