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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
    I've sorta said that a couple of times, sorta. With the caveat that it has to be more than just a "counter" offer, you'll need to be more than just in the same ballpark. You're competing against an NRL gig at his childhood club ready to buy him a team.

    But money changes everything.
    So it isn’t done then?
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    I don't think Ripley comes across as just trolling. I think he really has been told what he says, whether it happens or not? We all hope not. But, you would have to say the chance to coach your boyhood club with money to spend would appeal to many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I don't think Ripley comes across as just trolling. I think he really has been told what he says, whether it happens or not? We all hope not. But, you would have to say the chance to coach your boyhood club with money to spend would appeal to many.
    Agree he comes across as genuine, I have however spent some time checking through the Bulldogs forums and there is little mention of JH amongst posters. Mainly talking about players they would hope to sign, JH mentioned in passing but most talk is of other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    Stop banging on about the NRL. Rugby League is played outside of the eastern edges of Australia. I'm convinced that they think that they invented the sport
    Nah, you lot invented the sport, I think, didn't you?

    But we're talking about an Aussie boy, and his ambition. And who's come knocking at his door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    So it isn’t done then?
    I'd thought I'd been clear on this, but I'll try and be clearer.

    What I've been told by someone who should know, almost always has in the past, and I think does now - is that's it's done from The Dogs end at least. They've made the call on Pay, targeted Holbrook, talked to him and/or his management, made the offer, the response was positive.

    Whether he has officially signed as of today or it's just agreement in principle pending whatever......??

    And that's as much as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
    I'd thought I'd been clear on this, but I'll try and be clearer.

    What I've been told by someone who should know, almost always has in the past, and I think does now - is that's it's done from The Dogs end at least. They've made the call on Pay, targeted Holbrook, talked to him and/or his management, made the offer, the response was positive.

    Whether he has officially signed as of today or it's just agreement in principle pending whatever......??

    And that's as much as I know.
    OK cheers for clearing up that it isn’t done. Much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
    I'd thought I'd been clear on this, but I'll try and be clearer.

    What I've been told by someone who should know, almost always has in the past, and I think does now - is that's it's done from The Dogs end at least. They've made the call on Pay, targeted Holbrook, talked to him and/or his management, made the offer, the response was positive.

    Whether he has officially signed as of today or it's just agreement in principle pending whatever......??

    And that's as much as I know.
    So they've made him an offer but you don't know if he's accepted it?

    By my reckoning, that means it's not done, which is contrary to what another person has told me.

    So we're none the wiser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    So basically this is you wishful thinking, hoping Holbrook will leave a team sweeping all before them and on the verge of domination to potentially taste a poisoned chalice......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thommo View Post
    Flip side....Why hasn't it been announced that JH is leaving? We (Saints) are slipping back into our bad old ways of second guessing and Chinese whispers caused by continued silence by the Club. Thought we had learned our lessons...
    Because nobody likes to break bad news and they are trying to wait till a good time to announce it. Maybe they did not want to announce it before the Wigan game for example.

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    This has been going on for so long now that we will just feel relief if he stays and already resigned to the fact if he goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasgowsaint View Post
    Because nobody likes to break bad news and they are trying to wait till a good time to announce it. Maybe they did not want to announce it before the Wigan game for example.
    They will want everything sorted out at the same time too, as they did when Barba left and they announced Coote signing at the same time.
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    It would take a pretty bad coach to undo what the club has done right over the past 2 years. I honestly don’t think we’ve changed massively on the field under Holbrook. But the culture at the club and fan interaction has changed and that is good to see. That won’t change now no matter who comes in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishy3005 View Post
    It would take a pretty bad coach to undo what the club has done right over the past 2 years. I honestly dont think weve changed massively on the field under Holbrook. But the culture at the club and fan interaction has changed and that is good to see. That wont change now no matter who comes in.
    Oh I wouldn't bank on that.
    Its surprising how quickly a team can lose confidence.

    It's very fine margins between success and failure on sport.

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    That interview he gave Alan Rooney on radio Merseyside didn't fill me with confidence he's going to be staying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Grouse View Post
    Oh I wouldn't bank on that.
    Its surprising how quickly a team can lose confidence.

    It's very fine margins between success and failure on sport.
    100% agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Grouse View Post
    Oh I wouldn't bank on that.
    Its surprising how quickly a team can lose confidence.

    It's very fine margins between success and failure on sport.
    If any new coach can ruin this team then we have a serious problem of player power at the club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    That interview he gave Alan Rooney on radio Merseyside didn't fill me with confidence he's going to be staying
    I missed that Webbo - what did he say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Grouse View Post
    Oh I wouldn't bank on that.
    Its surprising how quickly a team can lose confidence.

    It's very fine margins between success and failure on sport.
    Yes Infamous.
    Most coaches know what is needed for success within clubs, why do so many fail ?
    We have a coach who is and has been a perfect fit for us, things can change in hours with the wrong head man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishy3005 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishy3005 View Post
    If any new coach can ruin this team then we have a serious problem of player power at the club.
    Its not so much players its tactics, training methods, fitness routines etc. Remember a significant amount of these players were no where near playing at their full potential under Cunningham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weetabix View Post
    I missed that Webbo - what did he say?
    This is the full 1 hour programme, jump to 24.30 for the interview. There's definitely something amiss, and Holbrook says he doesn't like being in this situation, that he's leaving it to his management, and he thinks it'll all be sorted in the next couple of weeks. Alan Rooney tries to pin him down about staying at Saints, but Holbrook swerves giving a clear answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    This is the full 1 hour programme, jump to 24.30 for the interview. There's definitely something amiss, and Holbrook says he doesn't like being in this situation, that he's leaving it to his management, and he thinks it'll all be sorted in the next couple of weeks. Alan Rooney tries to pin him down about staying at Saints, but Holbrook swerves giving a clear answer.

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    Thanks. For the first time he sounded very downbeat so I am not sure what to make of that. I guess we should hang on to the bit where he says nothing has changed in terms of his desire to stay but I'd agree it's far from convincing that he is going to.

    I could still strangle Alan Rooney.

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    Is there any chance he could leave us before the end of the season and if so, do we think it would affect the players.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weetabix View Post
    Thanks. For the first time he sounded very downbeat so I am not sure what to make of that. I guess we should hang on to the bit where he says nothing has changed in terms of his desire to stay but I'd agree it's far from convincing that he is going to.

    I could still strangle Alan Rooney.
    I've been watching his body language a lot in interviews lately and he seems a bit more edgy and distracted than usual and not his engaging self. You can't blame him being torn if there's a big offer on the table back home. However, from discussions with a few people that know him, his family especially his twin lads, are really enjoying it here. That's priceless.

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