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    No I’ve checked and the French Federation is called

    Fédération Française de Rugby XIII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suttoner View Post
    No I’ve checked and the French Federation is called

    Fédération Française de Rugby XIII.
    You missed out the “à” - it’s “Fédération Française de Rugby à XIII”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    You missed out the “à” - it’s “Fédération Française de Rugby à XIII”.
    I copied and pasted it but thanks for the clarification. I didn’t get the chance to do French at school so it’s not my strongpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    You missed out the “à” - it’s “Fédération Française de Rugby à XIII”.
    Sacre bleu, c'est terrible. I mean, really?

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    What does it matter what it's called, as long as people know it's Rugby League? Premier League, Championship, Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, Champions League etc. all don't contain the word football but everyone knows exactly what is being talked about if you say Champions League winners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Claire View Post
    Sacre bleu, c'est terrible. I mean, really?
    I’m always the pedantic putain, made worse by the visits to watch Saints play PSG at the outset of Super League. Firstly got sick of the French asking what the jersey was wherever we ate and not understanding what rugby league was; then, once I’d looked up what was called over there, getting blank looks whenever I just said rugby treize, and then getting a questioning “rugby a treize”. Just a bunch of encules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    You missed out the “à” - it’s “Fédération Française de Rugby à XIII”.
    I'm just surprised RG or that clown Stevo didn't get in first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBT View Post
    What does it matter what it's called, as long as people know it's Rugby League? Premier League, Championship, Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, Champions League etc. all don't contain the word football but everyone knows exactly what is being talked about if you say Champions League winners.
    Everyone knows what is being talked about because football is a world wide sport. It’s become not only our national sport but the national sport in many other countries.

    The point of this thread, however, was originally to highlight the point that the name “Super League” is being used by too many other sports and if the European Super League goes ahead, Super League will be synonymous with football. It doesn’t help that the words “Rugby League” are rarely heard on Sky, which is the principal broadcaster. I think our small (outside Australia) sport needs to preserve its identity and to have the right, distinctive branding if it is to move forward.

    One thing the European Super League proposal has brought home to me is that you have to be careful who your owners are and fans have no say in that.

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    Going on a bit of a tangent, but you have to respect the "fundamentalist" attitude of football fans that have prevented all this for so long.

    They've said no to the 39th game, commercial changes to team names, stadium naming rights, and the pursuit of keeping the game as "unchanged" as possible in regards to the league system/pyramid, etc

    As Rugby League fans, we've been through these seismic changes to sport, in both appearance, and organisation, and we've largely been passive throughout. But I have solidarity with the football fans willing to stop this, and I hope they can.

    At this point, the Super League name has as much positive PR as a lump of sick. It was also gimmicky, and undignified. But it was also literally a rupture in our sport, that moved our entire season, undermined sporting merit (bye bye Keighley), and sold the game's soul with a bit of cheap razzmatazz.

    At least these breakaway Football teams can bypass "legacy" fans, and exploit new markets in the far east, or wherever. Ironically, this was never an option for SLE, and yet we all let it happen just as easily.
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    With Manchester City having pulled out and Chelsea rumoured to be doing so, the new football enterprise may be a non-starter. If that’s the case, we’re probably stuck with the Super League name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suttoner View Post
    With Manchester City having pulled out and Chelsea rumoured to be doing so, the new football enterprise may be a non-starter. If that’s the case, we’re probably stuck with the Super League name.
    It’s a smokescreen, this football one, I feel. They’ll “settle” for something less, which is equally as abhorrent and self absorbed as this Super League.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machoTit View Post
    Going on a bit of a tangent, but you have to respect the "fundamentalist" attitude of football fans that have prevented all this for so long.

    They've said no to the 39th game, commercial changes to team names, stadium naming rights, and the pursuit of keeping the game as "unchanged" as possible in regards to the league system/pyramid, etc

    As Rugby League fans, we've been through these seismic changes to sport, in both appearance, and organisation, and we've largely been passive throughout. But I have solidarity with the football fans willing to stop this, and I hope they can.

    At this point, the Super League name has as much positive PR as a lump of sick. It was also gimmicky, and undignified. But it was also literally a rupture in our sport, that moved our entire season, undermined sporting merit (bye bye Keighley), and sold the game's soul with a bit of cheap razzmatazz.

    At least these breakaway Football teams can bypass "legacy" fans, and exploit new markets in the far east, or wherever. Ironically, this was never an option for SLE, and yet we all let it happen just as easily.
    If SLE marketing are reading this, we'll be having a round of fixtures played in the far east in the coming seasons!! Forget expansion just outside of the M62 corridor, forget Canada or USA, just follow the £££!! It'll be confusing when we sell them broadcast rights to "Superleague", tuning in expecting to see AC Milan v Barcelona, but get Salford v Wakefield!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by machoTit View Post
    ...As Rugby League fans, we've been through these seismic changes to sport, in both appearance, and organisation, and we've largely been passive throughout. But I have solidarity with the football fans willing to stop this, and I hope they can.

    At this point, the Super League name has as much positive PR as a lump of sick. It was also gimmicky, and undignified. But it was also literally a rupture in our sport, that moved our entire season, undermined sporting merit (bye bye Keighley), and sold the game's soul with a bit of cheap razzmatazz...
    I must admit that I struggle with this.
    At the time, Sky and Super League were a shot in the arm for RL.
    Looking further back, if we hadn't embraced a 'brave new world', along with numerous rule changes, we would all be watching Rugby Union now.
    Unfortunately, we seem to have lost our way a little. Too much reliance on one paymaster, and too many 'rule' changes and tinkering brings us to where we are today.
    Personally, I still think it's a decent sport to watch, but it has lost that 'edge' that it once had IMO. Maybe it's an age thing, as some of you have already mentioned 'it's not like it was in my day'.
    All is not lost, but something needs to change soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machoTit View Post
    Going on a bit of a tangent, but you have to respect the "fundamentalist" attitude of football fans that have prevented all this for so long.

    They've said no to the 39th game, commercial changes to team names, stadium naming rights, and the pursuit of keeping the game as "unchanged" as possible in regards to the league system/pyramid, etc

    As Rugby League fans, we've been through these seismic changes to sport, in both appearance, and organisation, and we've largely been passive throughout. But I have solidarity with the football fans willing to stop this, and I hope they can.

    At this point, the Super League name has as much positive PR as a lump of sick. It was also gimmicky, and undignified. But it was also literally a rupture in our sport, that moved our entire season, undermined sporting merit (bye bye Keighley), and sold the game's soul with a bit of cheap razzmatazz.

    At least these breakaway Football teams can bypass "legacy" fans, and exploit new markets in the far east, or wherever. Ironically, this was never an option for SLE, and yet we all let it happen just as easily.
    I understand what you mean but RL in this country would have been finished had Sky not come in with the package when they did.

    I just miss Boxing Day & New Year's Day games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I understand what you mean but RL in this country would have been finished had Sky not come in with the package when they did.

    I just miss Boxing Day & New Year's Day games
    I agree with your first point, and your second.

    I think RL fans need to look towards football right now and see the things that can be achieved with a bit of fan power BUT we need to be untied in our aims and I think that's were it will ultimately fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentishBarry View Post
    I must admit that I struggle with this.
    At the time, Sky and Super League were a shot in the arm for RL.
    Looking further back, if we hadn't embraced a 'brave new world', along with numerous rule changes, we would all be watching Rugby Union now.
    Unfortunately, we seem to have lost our way a little. Too much reliance on one paymaster, and too many 'rule' changes and tinkering brings us to where we are today.
    Personally, I still think it's a decent sport to watch, but it has lost that 'edge' that it once had IMO. Maybe it's an age thing, as some of you have already mentioned 'it's not like it was in my day'.
    All is not lost, but something needs to change soon.
    Agree completely. Also, the move to summer brought a way better standard of entertaining rugby (at least until the numskulls ruined that)

    Said before that during the first decade or so of SL, there was a positivity about the sport, an upwards trajectory. That has now been squashed and squandered.

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    Despite the collapse of the ESL I think the RFL still needs to consider a name change, that word SUPERLEAGUE is very much tainted and has a very negative profile now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIDDY View Post
    Despite the collapse of the ESL I think the RFL still needs to consider a name change, that word SUPERLEAGUE is very much tainted and has a very negative profile now.
    100% no brainer. So I'm sure we'll start next season as Super League.

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    Interesting reference to superleague in relation to the proposed European Super League Football fiasco.

    BBC NEWS QUIZ on Friday

    1. An Irish comedian says he is a rugby league fan.
    2. Appreciative murmur from the audience.
    3. A bizarre attempt at a St Helens accent.
    4. A mickey-take about the small geographical area of the sport.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000v9v6

    NB Near the start of the programme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Dave View Post
    100% no brainer. So I'm sure we'll start next season as Super League.
    Why shouldn't we, we were first! The fact that there are 10 others getting far more publicity than us shouldn't make us rush into a change. After all we have never changed anything in the game before, whether it needed changing or not.

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