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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside View Post
    Cannot work out if that's sarcasm or you have really been comparing them?
    Genuinely, Coote is a much better organiser, tackler, catcher of bombs and has a good passing game from first impressions. Barba was a brilliant runner and passer that happened to be playing fullback. There's a difference. BB Couldn't tackle for toffee. And that's the fundamental skill a fullback needs to posess. Such a shame he's messed up though. I hope he sorts himself out.

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    Just been reading on Fox-sports . It seems he was losing heavily at the casino , then went berserk .
    Apparently it was all on the cctv camera . Now seems his playing days are over in NRL anyhow .
    Dreadful situation , lovely wife & 4 daughters , God bless them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallaght Tiger View Post
    I think we all need to take a step back and not kick the man whilst he is down.
    I hope he finds a solution to his problems and issues I wish him well with this.
    Saints as a club has signed a few players with violent behaviour cases against them, Leon Pryce glassed a man and then years later assisted in an assault with another player against someone before we signed him, Longy`s problems are well documented also, we cannot take the moral high ground.
    These players are human and bit of humility from some posters would not go amiss.


    I’m more inclined to hope his partner is ok after being subjected to whatever has gone on. Not worrying about kicking the perpetrator while he’s down.


    I loved having Barba at saints but if he’s put his hands on a woman then he derseves all he gets.

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    That’s the guys career over. What a fool.

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    It’ll be interesting to see if he does get a lifetime NRL ban and then a Super League side tries to sign him.

    When he came to Saints with a 12 week ban the RFL made him serve it - if he signs for Leeds or Wigan would they make him serve a lifetime ban? Probably not.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chief View Post
    That’s the guys career over. What a fool.
    Careers in sport are never safe to call over in these circumstances, a club will always put success before morals. I bet conversations are already ongoing between a manager and chair somewhere.

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    The NRL are banning him from there comp, i don’t think they can ban him from Super League. It would look incredibly bad on our game though if we don’t hold the same standards on something this serious.

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    don't know if this as been posted.

    https://twitter.com/7NewsSydney/stat...97442649223168

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api...5cbdda4b6764db

    Strong words, and rightly so imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehnn View Post
    It’ll be interesting to see if he does get a lifetime NRL ban and then a Super League side tries to sign him.

    When he came to Saints with a 12 week ban the RFL made him serve it - if he signs for Leeds or Wigan would they make him serve a lifetime ban? Probably not.......


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    Listening to the report on Fox News it would seem they are trying to clamp down on players.
    Apparently during the close season there have been a dozen or so incidents involving players.

    Barba is a high profile player and it looks as if they intend to make an example of him.
    He's 28 so if he receives a 2 or 3 year ban then his career will be virtually over.

    When he came to us there was some debate on whether an NRL ban counted over here so it would be interesting to see what would happen if a club over here tried to sign him and has someone mentioned earlier if he is prosecuted for the offence he is unlikely to get a Visa.

    On a general note I think the game here and in Australia needs to look at the way we manage the lifestyle of players
    I assume Barba would have been playing the game from an early age and at whatever level he would always have been a star player.
    To some extent some sportsmen can become like overgrown schoolkids.
    They are insulated from normal life and lack the maturity to deal with the money and lifestyle.

    I know Scott Moore wasn't as talented as Barba but but he has still blown his career away.

    Our game has only been full time professional for 20yrs or so, I think there are some lessons to be learned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallaght Tiger View Post
    I think we all need to take a step back and not kick the man whilst he is down.
    I hope he finds a solution to his problems and issues I wish him well with this.
    Saints as a club has signed a few players with violent behaviour cases against them, Leon Pryce glassed a man and then years later assisted in an assault with another player against someone before we signed him, Longy`s problems are well documented also, we cannot take the moral high ground.
    These players are human and bit of humility from some posters would not go amiss.
    I don't think it's an issue of "kicking a man whilst he's down " Tallaght. Barba put himself in the position he is in, no one else. He had a good job, was well paid, was good at his job, adorable children (I've met 'em!) and as far as we know a loving wife. If he chooses to endanger or destroy all of that, then it's not "kicking" him to criticise his behaviour.
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    I’d imagine that’s his career over in Australia. I doubt very much he’ll get a visa for the UK or Canada so pretty much leaves Catalan as his only league option. Could see him going back to French rugby union or maybe the Japanese league. It’s a shame to see such a talented individual have such off field problems but he’s had more than enough chances now and, if he has indeed committed the offence they’re accusing him of, this time I hope they throw the book at him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallaght Tiger View Post
    I think we all need to take a step back and not kick the man whilst he is down.
    I hope he finds a solution to his problems and issues I wish him well with this.
    Saints as a club has signed a few players with violent behaviour cases against them, Leon Pryce glassed a man and then years later assisted in an assault with another player against someone before we signed him, Longy`s problems are well documented also, we cannot take the moral high ground.
    These players are human and bit of humility from some posters would not go amiss.
    On this I agree with you. I have somewhat changed from my initial view on this. Firstly I hate anyone who hits a woman. That will never change. My initial reaction is he has had his chances and should not be given anymore. I am assuming due to his previous he has some serious issues. We could just say well he is an arsehole and ditch him. Or we could say he needs help. RL has been pushing mental health support. So where does that leave RL now. If he has MH issues it goes that RL can’t waffle about helping and then turn their backs. Firstly he needs to be punished then helped.
    He seemed happy here but clearly missed the ‘excitement’ of the Aussie off field environment. His wife and kids loved it here and she most likely knew what would happen on his return. Could Saints (or other RL club) offer him a lifeline and at the same time showing they (and the rest of RL) really care about mental health when a real situation arrives.
    It might turn out that he is beyond help. But hopefully someone will try to get him sorted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.O.88 View Post
    The NRL are banning him from there comp, i don’t think they can ban him from Super League. It would look incredibly bad on our game though if we don’t hold the same standards on something this serious.
    Another waste of gifted talent and I really feel for his wife and kids, who are suffering through no fault of their own.

    In terms of his future I'd be amazed and really annoyed if we didn't follow suit and banned him from playing in our comp. When he got the 12 game ban from the NRL and came over here, the RFL just followed suit then and banned him for the same period here, which obviously hurt us as a team. So, if they didn't go along with the NRL now, and ban him completely, then that would be massively hypocritical and the opposite of what they did 2 years ago.

    His only option now seems to be RU, as I was concerned initially Wire could jump in and pay him Kev Brown's wages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prez View Post
    I don't think it's an issue of "kicking a man whilst he's down " Tallaght. Barba put himself in the position he is in, no one else. He had a good job, was well paid, was good at his job, adorable children (I've met 'em!) and as far as we know a loving wife. If he chooses to endanger or destroy all of that, then it's not "kicking" him to criticise his behaviour.
    Prez, I understand yours and AO.88 points, my sympathies are with his immediate family, I am also not condoning his behavior and I am well aware of the consequences of his actions.
    My point is that calling someone a "shit house, scum bag and waster" is not criticism of behaviour (not that yourself our AO.88 did) rather maybe deflecting away from their own downfalls themselves or more likely disappointed that an RL player who in their minds is a Saint literally and clubwise has let them down somehow. In my experience of life they who pontificate the loudest are usually the ones with the same issues. We have allowed people with the same misdemeanours in our club before and one is still here.
    There go I but for the grace of and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallaght Tiger View Post
    Prez, I understand yours and AO.88 points, my sympathies are with his immediate family, I am also not condoning his behavior and I am well aware of the consequences of his actions.
    My point is that calling someone a "shit house, scum bag and waster" is not criticism of behaviour (not that yourself our AO.88 did) rather maybe deflecting away from their own downfalls themselves or more likely disappointed that an RL player who in their minds is a Saint literally and clubwise has let them down somehow. In my experience of life they who pontificate the loudest are usually the ones with the same issues. We have allowed people with the same misdemeanours in our club before and one is still here.
    There go I but for the grace of and all that.
    God knows what must be going through his head now, he’s thrown away pretty much a dream life. No career, possibly no family, no income, police charges. All that time in rehab obviously meant nothing.

    You’d imagine he’d of made some nice money in his time, but I’d think he better start thinking about a job soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallaght Tiger View Post
    Prez, I understand yours and AO.88 points, my sympathies are with his immediate family, I am also not condoning his behavior and I am well aware of the consequences of his actions.
    My point is that calling someone a "shit house, scum bag and waster" is not criticism of behaviour (not that yourself our AO.88 did) rather maybe deflecting away from their own downfalls themselves or more likely disappointed that an RL player who in their minds is a Saint literally and clubwise has let them down somehow. In my experience of life they who pontificate the loudest are usually the ones with the same issues. We have allowed people with the same misdemeanours in our club before and one is still here.
    There go I but for the grace of and all that.
    I agree with this. I've done things in the past that have been silly, reckless, selfish and stupid. I've done a few of these when I've had too much to drink. I am reluctant to criticise but it's a really bad thing that he's done.

    A very bad situation indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallaght Tiger View Post
    Prez, I understand yours and AO.88 points, my sympathies are with his immediate family, I am also not condoning his behavior and I am well aware of the consequences of his actions.
    My point is that calling someone a "shit house, scum bag and waster" is not criticism of behaviour (not that yourself our AO.88 did) rather maybe deflecting away from their own downfalls themselves or more likely disappointed that an RL player who in their minds is a Saint literally and clubwise has let them down somehow. In my experience of life they who pontificate the loudest are usually the ones with the same issues. We have allowed people with the same misdemeanours in our club before and one is still here.
    There go I but for the grace of and all that.
    I pretty much concur. Whilst not advocating a posse and lynch mob and acknowledging that I would imagine everyone on this forum has made some daft decisions in life at some time (I know I have!), Barba (unlike most of us who have to figure it out on our own and become responsible adults) will have had professional help in the past. Rather like Hardaker, he has learned nothing. I personally don't expect him to be anymore of a "Saint" than any other person. However, with the talent and opportunities he's been granted, he's got a head start on your average Joe. It may be that he's confused and misunderstood, or perhaps just cannot control his primal urges, indeed, most people caught committing offences can "justify" their actions. Bottom line is, he's not a child, he has a family and he's let everyone (including himself). down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Fridge View Post
    I agree with this. I've done things in the past that have been silly, reckless, selfish and stupid. I've done a few of these when I've had too much to drink. I am reluctant to criticise but it's a really bad thing that he's done.

    A very bad situation indeed
    I agree Ralph. Im not condoning Barba's behaviour. Some people become a whole other person when they have a few drinks. This doesn’t excuse the behaviour. If you become a monster when you drink, you’re best not drinking. It’s personal responsibility. People are capable of change. Sad thing is that by the time people mature and outgrow bad habits it’s too late and the damage is done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MachineGunFunk View Post
    Another waste of gifted talent and I really feel for his wife and kids, who are suffering through no fault of their own.

    In terms of his future I'd be amazed and really annoyed if we didn't follow suit and banned him from playing in our comp. When he got the 12 game ban from the NRL and came over here, the RFL just followed suit then and banned him for the same period here, which obviously hurt us as a team. So, if they didn't go along with the NRL now, and ban him completely, then that would be massively hypocritical and the opposite of what they did 2 years ago.

    His only option now seems to be RU, as I was concerned initially Wire could jump in and pay him Kev Brown's wages.
    I know he is gone now, but Nige stated that each competition had an agreement/understanding to respect each other's suspensions etc. Going off Greenberg's statement it seems he is finished in RL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Saint View Post
    I know he is gone now, but Nige stated that each competition had an agreement/understanding to respect each other's suspensions etc. Going off Greenberg's statement it seems he is finished in RL.

    Would anyone really be surprised if the piescum or RFL darlings Leeds got exempted if they signed him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    Would anyone really be surprised if the piescum or RFL darlings Leeds got exempted if they signed him?

    Yes I would be surprised, because I’m not paranoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Yes I would be surprised, because I’m not paranoid.

    Give it a rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    What the hell's your problem?
    Glad you asked.

    I dislike the rhetoric that the RFL would change the rules or overlook a ban for Wigan or Leeds. It’s simply not true, and smacks of paranoia.
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