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Just thank God that the two lads were fit enough to sustain their attack and not be damaged for the rest of their lives! Unlike some mothers whose lad who isn't as healthy as Joe and his mate.
Could have finished far more serious.
Best wishes Joe and your true Mate hope you both make a full and speedy recovery.
I dread to think what the coward who was doing the repetitive kidney punches at the end of the video is capable of doing in the confines of the club were they know they are not being recorded.
Surely these guys aren't stupid enough to think that some guy will not be recording it on a phone?
Whatever happened in the club, and whatever happened to start it, 8 bouncers piling in is not a proportionate response to anything. Hope the mongrels get their comeuppance.
Let’s not refer to this incident as one of assault - it goes way beyond the legal definition of assault. It is assault and battery at the very least and probably ABH/GBH if a person is hospitalised with a brain bleed. No need for the excessive thuggery at all.
The lead up to the incident is now on you tube and it shows a bit of and exchange and then a nuclear response by the bouncers - no surprise at all. Should satisfy those waiting for the full story. Club has reported only 4 of 34 incidents (many involving doormen) over the last 12 months and Joe was unconscious for "10 minutes" before anyone bothered to help him. Its had its licence suspended following a council meeting this morning.
Joe was unconscious for "10 minutes" before anyone bothered to help him.
This is what I cannot get my head around. On two counts.
1. A lack of response from the staff to alert the emergency services
2. That no passers by tried to help him.
I despair at the way society is going, I really do
Whilst there is no excuse for what the doormen did and I’m pleased they’ve been rightly sacked I have little sympathy for Joe. He got himself into the situation by trying to hit one of the doormen first. He obviously didn’t deserve what happened for that but ultimately it’s his own fault. I think the reaction to it has been very dramatic and I think it will have taught him a lesson.
I completely disagree.
There was enough of them to march him away from the club & tell him & his mate to go away.
That's all they had to do.
He was poleaxed & then his mate was used as a punching bag by a group of them. Getting dig after dig in the kidneys when he's been put on the deck is way, way over the top.
To add to it, the mob outside treating it as some sort of spectator sport.
A sorry, disturbing episode, that is a sad reflection on today's society.
It was disgraceful
If Joe threw the first punch and the bouncer retaliated in defence by knocking him out then calling an ambulance because of his unconscious state then fair enough. But they just left him for 10 mins whilst going out of there way to give his mate a mob battering way beyond there brief.
But using the words "I have little sympathy" and "irritating" is not the right words in this instance because we were looking at a potential fatality here, saying "Joe is an idiot for starting a fight" is more apt.
Last edited by STIDDY; 7th December 2018 at 15:57.
With one punch can kill being heavily promoted this time of year,seeing a gang mentality in action with multiple people attacking one person I would hope there are charges being brought against the bouncers.
People have an expectation that those undertaking their job (especially in a public arena) will refrain from blatantly breaking the law to exact a bit of summary justice on someone gobbing off, fronting up, or even throwing out a slap.
I don't think that is an unrealistic expectation.
However, given some of the people attracted to the doorman profession, the expectation is a bit naïve. Some are thugs, just itching for someone to start trouble so they can have a dig.
I agree Ralph, people commenting/goading while filming, yet no one helping. The filming of incidents is new as camera phones are prevalent nowadays.
I do feel society has always been the same though, I remember the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster with many people selflessly helping others, whilst thugs on the decks were robbing the survivors at knife point as they made their escape. The contrast of sides of humanity.
Last edited by Tallaght Tiger; 8th December 2018 at 06:42.
Anything is fair game for ‘entertainment’ now for a lot of idiots, no moral decency, just the next opportunity to get a few emoji laughs or likes from their similar minded idiot friends, whose brains can’t handle anything more than a 2 minute video clip by way of ‘entertainment’. I actually found it sickening hearing people cheer on that clip when the lad hit the deck unconscious. Is this really what these people class as having a good night?
Last edited by Sean Day; 8th December 2018 at 07:52.
Have you really joined the forum just to post this? I’m not sure what you’re offended about, I’ve said plenty of times he didn’t deserve to be left with an injury like that and I’ve said that the bouncers were disgraceful. However I’m not sure how you can disagree that it’s his own fault. You try and start a fight with a bouncer then you’re risking getting a bit of a beating.