I think people underestimate the value of amor with the defensive effort he puts in.
If you had said last year let's have a pack with Thompson, Lees, Douglas and lms you would say the pack needs 2 or 3 more props.
I think people underestimate the value of amor with the defensive effort he puts in.
If you had said last year let's have a pack with Thompson, Lees, Douglas and lms you would say the pack needs 2 or 3 more props.
Lomax invisible today, thankfully we always have Theo to come on.
I think fortunately we only play Wigan and Warrington towards the back end of the season. So time for warlmsley to recover.
I think with other teams we can play average and still put 30-40 points on. So far only the Leeds and Wigan games stand out as games were we have been challenged.
Below par performance today, maybe should be expected after the great performance last week.
We got the 2 points, job done
To be fair, I think Taia’s form has dropped significantly and Percival is being marked out of the game for the most part (hence Barba is finding far more space on the right at the moment).
The whole pack seemed really poor in the first half, with only Peyroux and Knowles coming away with any sort of credit for me (and Peyroux had a few errors and a stupid moment in him). I think it was telling Holbrook brought Fages on at lock today.
Saints having a below par game yet scoring 38 points to win is satisfactory, can't play to very high performances every week, onward to the next game.
Amen. We were very average last week. We won though so can’t complain. It will be tough to play to full ability every week so can’t complain.
I don’t mind us playing poorly today. I have beef with us playing average last week. We owed Cas for the drubbing in the cup last year and we owed them for beating us in last seasons play offs, yet we turned up and gave less than 100%. Not good enough IMO.
screaming in the family corner, scaring the kiddies
There was a series of unfortunate events to stop us regaining the lead after the not bothering in the first 20 minutes. On any other day one of the Morgan pullback/ Lomax headshot/ percival incident would have come up trumps and we wouldn’t have lost the lead again imo. Alas it wasn’t meant to be, and not turning up in the first 20 minutes cost us the points.
I think we would all of taken being where we are with a couple of 4/10 performances compared to where we were last year even with the 45-0 magic game!
You clearly watch a different game from me. While we made mistakes against Cas, I still think we gave 100%; certainly, I don’t think it’s possible to work any harder in defence and any failings in our attack, which nevertheless scored 36 points, were largely the consequence of the efforts of Cas.
Oh yes absolutely, I just meant when we have been decent this year I think only Wigan and Leeds have been able to compete. Wakefield beat us but I don't think we were at full speed for that game hence why I did not include them.
Wigan look to be our closest rivals this year so I'm quite glad it's late on in the season when we meet them again
We won and I'll happily take the 2 points.
I thought we would really turn up and put them to the sword but Widnes played very well. Fair play to them
Widnes gave it absolutely everything, we barely got out of first gear and still never looked like losing. Widnes has a couple of bad calls against them but not enough to affect the result and there was always the sense Saints could have turned it on if necessary. Widnes looked out on their feet by the end whereas we looked relatively fresh.
Forwards win games. The backs decide by how much.
I think the first part of your comment, one is a consequence of the other. Taia has not been finding nor making any gaps going forward. Normally Percy would be taking short balls running off him. As it is everyone can see in advance when the ball is going Percys way, making it easier to close him down.
Listening the game on the radio yesterday it sounded to me like Wilkin was first receiver most of second half. Was Roby off as I didn’t hear his name. Need someone faster than Wilkin as first receiver. Thought he’d been told to stay out of it.
Lomax, Percy, Roby and Walmsley, all played in the world cup and suffering mid season, Walmsley and Roby impact injuries so may be not related. Gale and Currie injured, McMeeken and Hill not hitting last years highs, Hull have a lot of South Sea Island lads out who played for teams in the World Cup. You see it in soccer after a tournament players form dips and injuries seem more common, Watkins limped out yesterday he is not in great form either at mid season point. Too many miles on the clock for the year?
Gale, Knowles, LMS, Douglas and Amor were also in the World cup.
They played a game or two less than the Roby and Walmsley