Not seen these two mentioned much in any of the recent posts, probably fair enough if they can't play, but we sure miss them. Probably were the 2 best 2nd rows in the comp at the time - speed in attack, aggressive in defence, and both 80 min players with phenomenal work rates. Have them on the pitch and you can afford the luxury of Mose and even get away with some average centre play because of their running threat out wide. Got to be able to play without them, but they've certainly left a big hole.