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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallahassee View Post
    Mad though,Burns out maybe three months,Green gets one game
    This, how a tripple face fracture only gets a one game ban from a direct shoulder to the head is baffling. If intentional contact is made to the head then the severity of the injury received should be reflected in the ban.
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    Eamonn must have broken a lot of mirrors at some point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallahassee View Post
    Mad though,Burns out maybe three months,Green gets one game
    Disgusting! He was targeted all night and the perpetrator gets to come back on Monday with fresh legs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    Me too mate but I can't see him chucking him for a Good Friday debut.
    It might be a case of having too make his debut haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
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    Long may the curse continue if it means we end up with the LLS and SL trophy each season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint-spoiler View Post
    It might be a case of having too make his debut haha
    He's definitely an option now. He can cover centre or 2nd row so he might even end up with just a bench spot to provide cover.
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    Firstly the ban for Green proves that Childs was incompetent by allowing him to remain on the field of play. He should have seen red if we are being consistent.

    The length of the ban is also a joke and it is about time that the damage caused was factored in in some way. Burns could be out for weeks and weeks and he cops 1 match with an EGP. Ben Flower copped 6 months for an incident that in reality caused less damage to the opponent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    He's definitely an option now. He can cover centre or 2nd row so he might even end up with just a bench spot to provide cover.
    Josh Jones was thrown in at centre for his debut against Leeds iirc.

    Title of the thread says it all, it's dire reading for any Saints fan and couldn't have come at a worse time! The only bonus is Walsh is probably due back in a couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    So best case scenario is Roby, Wellens and Greenwood make it and we look like this:

    Wellens
    Makinson
    Dawson
    Turner
    Swift
    Hohaia
    Wilkin
    Amor
    Roby
    Walmsley
    Flanagan
    Greenwood
    Thompson

    Richards
    Masoe
    LMS
    Jones

    Worst case is those 3 miss out and something like this:

    Makinson
    Dawson
    Jones
    Turner
    Swift
    Flanagan
    Wilkin
    Amor
    Hohaia
    Walmsley
    LMS
    Savelio?!
    Thompson

    Masoe
    Richards
    Ashworth
    Walker?!

    Worst case scenario for me.....

    Makinson

    Dawson
    Ashworth
    Jones
    Swift

    Turner
    Wilkin

    Walmsley
    Hohaia
    Amor
    Thompson
    LMS
    Flanagan

    Masoe
    Richards
    Savelio
    Walker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Div View Post
    Ben Flower copped 6 months for an incident that in reality caused less damage to the opponent!
    I reality, it's 9 games - as we all know

    Much as it's frustrating, I'm sure there've been Saints players who've fouled opponents causing injury, who've been able to use EGP or just get a 2/3 game ban.

    But there is a real issue of big forwards seeming to target smaller halfbacks, and certain refs offering little or no protection. Green should have seen red, and we'd have likely carried 2 valuable points back to 'Tellins. As it is, we lose two points (where Burns' injury was a factor) and lose our only true halfback for a couple of months in the bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WA10 View Post
    Josh Jones was thrown in at centre for his debut against Leeds iirc.

    Title of the thread says it all, it's dire reading for any Saints fan and couldn't have come at a worse time! The only bonus is Walsh is probably due back in a couple of weeks.
    Warrington away I think but yeah I get your point mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    I reality, it's 9 games - as we all know
    Indeed but that is about as many as anyone can expect for any incident. The Flower incident was a cheap shot on a defenseless player. I would wager a large sum that if it had been in a regular, not broadcast league game he would have copped half that. He was made an example of because of the publicity is caused in the aftermath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Yellow Giraffe View Post
    http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4850

    No Burns or Vea for Friday.

    Atelea Vea suffered a shoulder injury at Hull KR and will have more tests this week to determine how best to manage the problem. It is likely he will be unavailable for several months.

    Travis Burns will also be missing for some time too with several facial issues including a triple fracture of the cheekbone.

    Jonny Lomax will undergo exploratory surgery to find out the extent of his knee problem and the prognosis is he will be out for nine months.

    James Roby, Paul Wellens and Joe Greenwood are set to have late fitness tests this week to determine whether they can factor in the Good Friday clash.

    Definitely missing Friday: Lomax, Percival, Burns, Walsh, Vea
    Doubtful: Wellens, Roby, Greenwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbo Again View Post
    I reality, it's 9 games - as we all know

    Much as it's frustrating, I'm sure there've been Saints players who've fouled opponents causing injury, who've been able to use EGP or just get a 2/3 game ban.

    But there is a real issue of big forwards seeming to target smaller halfbacks, and certain refs offering little or no protection. Green should have seen red, and we'd have likely carried 2 valuable points back to 'Tellins. As it is, we lose two points (where Burns' injury was a factor) and lose our only true halfback for a couple of months in the bargain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Div View Post
    Indeed but that is about as many as anyone can expect for any incident. The Flower incident was a cheap shot on a defenseless player. I would wager a large sum that if it had been in a regular, not broadcast league game he would have copped half that. He was made an example of because of the publicity is caused in the aftermath.
    A worthy ban for the offence plus he was sent off on the night. What's more annoying about this incident is the fact he stayed on the field and Saints got nothing but a crocked playmaker out of it!

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    If I wasn't already bald then I would be after reading this.ffs what have done to deserve this.good job I don't have a cat either.

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    Great...that's me peed off for the rest of the week, was looking forward to this only 2 weeks ago!

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    Terrible news all round really.

    The Lomax injury is a shocker and I feel gutted for the poor lad right now. Mentally he will be devastated right now and it's an injury he may not be able to come back from having suffered bad knee injury's before. We can only hope for the best on this one but I'm not feeling too optimistic that a). he will be able to return and b). if he does, he will be the same player.

    The Vea one is just unlucky and a real shame given his early season form. Typical that we sign a new player and within 6 weeks he's injured for several months.

    The Burns one is just a disgrace to be honest. How did Green get away with it at the time and how have the RFL only deemed worthy of a one game ban? We lose another key player for months and Green and Hull KR get very little punishment for foul play. James Child won't get punished either for an inept performance.
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    Quite how a player without the ball can end up with 3 fractures in his face, and a) the referee not deem it a red card offence, and b) the judiciary only award a 1 game ban, is beyond my comprehension.

    Green is out for 1 game, Burns is out for months, how long is Childs out for, or is he back endangering players this week?

    Hopefully it is all smoke and mirrors re: Roby, Greenwood and Wello. With those 3 on the field we are still the much stronger team. Even without them our pack is far superior and should lay a decent platform for whichever halfback pairing we can muster.
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    If we're looking for silver linings there is one huge positive - all our props are fit and that is where Wigan are most vulnerable.

    If we can get Greenwood, Roby and Wello on the pitch we're in with a chance.

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    I seriously think there's a big issue with the game at present. There's more reward for foul play than there is punishment. Take out our only playmaker, win a game and take a one match ban, whilst the victims burns/saints/supporters miss 3 months and our season potentially derails. A fair hard hit on the playmaker is one thing, but a late/high/shoulder charge has to be punished heavily to keep it out of the game.

    This could cost Eaton £100k and possibly more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee.ashtonsaint View Post
    I seriously think there's a big issue with the game at present. There's more reward for foul play than there is punishment. Take out our only playmaker, win a game and take a one match ban, whilst the victims burns/saints/supporters miss 3 months and our season potentially derails. A fair hard hit on the playmaker is one thing, but a late/high/shoulder charge has to be punished heavily to keep it out of the game.

    This could cost Eaton £100k and possibly more.
    What do Travis Burns, Todd Carney and Jonathan Thurston all have in common?

    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...20-1m40my.html

    Be interesting to see what action, if any, the NRL and RFL are going to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WA10 View Post
    Josh Jones was thrown in at centre for his debut against Leeds iirc.

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    Percival was thrown in against Leeds and Scott Moore against Wigan as a 16 year old.

    I'd be more than happy to see Ashworth in this Friday, he's only upo against gormless Gelling to no real threat anyway !
    What price Hewitt getting a game at 7 along side Wilkin ?

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    Typical Saints curse. Travis Burns doesn't miss a game all season for Hull KR then 6 weeks into his saints career & he looks like being out for as long as he has played.

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