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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyl View Post
    Good job everyone reacted calmly like Vaugnys mates do

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    I didnt say all of them lol :-)
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    SS pointed out what I was saying, just because a team goes down to 12 men doesn't mean they are going to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyl View Post
    when plan A involves being in the top two or three try scorers ever then its a pretty good plan A
    Anyone suggesting he wasn't a great player is insane. I couldn't stand him which was usually a good sign of his quality


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    Anyone suggesting he wasn't a great player is insane. I couldn't stand him which was usually a good sign


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    He had some really good centres beside him though. Wright at Widnes,Miles and Connolly at Wigan. A good centre can make a winger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallahassee View Post
    He had some really good centres beside him though. Wright at Widnes,Miles and Connolly at Wigan. A good centre can make a winger.
    And so did every great wingman who has played our game, it doesn't make them bad players though. Look back at games and I guarantee Offiah is within 2m of anyone else scoring a try. He was a great winger


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallahassee View Post
    He had some really good centres beside him though. Wright at Widnes,Miles and Connolly at Wigan. A good centre can make a winger.
    lets cut to the chase here, are you actually suggesting that he wasnt a great winger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    And so did every great wingman who has played our game, it doesn't make them bad players though. Look back at games and I guarantee Offiah is within 2m of anyone else scoring a try. He was a great winger


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    Not saying that,sorry if it sounded it but just pointing out about how he had some great centres beside him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyl View Post
    lets cut to the chase here, are you actually suggesting that he wasnt a great winger?
    Chase cut,answer above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallahassee View Post
    Not saying that,sorry if it sounded it but just pointing out about how he had some great centres beside him.
    I know what you mean, two words that add weight to your point - Sean Day.

    Having the best players inside a great wingman is important I'm not suggesting it isn't, but it doesn't devalue the talent Offiah had


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    Fastest player I ever saw. Did he ever win MoS? Just asking out of interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallahassee View Post
    Fastest player I ever saw. Did he ever win MoS? Just asking out of interest?
    I can't remember TBH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    I can't remember TBH
    1988 when playing for Widnes


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    1995 - Denis Betts, Wigan
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    1990 - Shaun Edwards, Wigan
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    1986 - Gavin Miller, Hull Kingston Rovers
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    1984 - Joe Lydon, Widnes
    1983 - Allan Agar, Featherstone Rovers
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    1980 - George Fairburn, Wigan
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    Offiah has constantly been embarrassing himself and Wigan since the final by his "Hohaia deserved a punch" nonsense. He's doing far more harm to Wigan than he is to us, because history is written by the victors. That, by the way, was us.
    WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF POOR BEN FLOWER?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Verminator View Post
    Offiah has constantly been embarrassing himself and Wigan since the final by his "Hohaia deserved a punch" nonsense. He's doing far more harm to Wigan than he is to us, because history is written by the victors. That, by the way, was us.
    This is a GREAT qoute!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tallahassee View Post
    chase cut,answer above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathon1964 View Post
    1988 when playing for Widnes


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    2013 - Danny Brough, Huddersfield Giants
    2012 - Sam Tomkins, Wigan Warriors
    2011 - Rangi Chase, Castleford Tigers
    2010 - Pat Richards, Wigan Warriors
    2009 - Brett Hodgson, Huddersfield Giants
    2008 - James Graham, St Helens
    2007 - James Roby, St Helens
    2006 - Paul Wellens, St Helens
    2005 - Jamie Lyon, St Helens
    2004 - Andrew Farrell, Wigan Warriors
    2003 - Jamie Peacock, Bradford Bulls
    2002 - Paul Sculthorpe, St Helens
    2001 - Paul Sculthorpe, St Helens
    2000 - Sean Long, St Helens
    1999 - Adrian Vowles, Castleford Tigers
    1998 - Iestyn Harris, Leeds Rhinos
    1997 - James Lowes, Bradford Bulls
    1996 - Andrew Farrell, Wigan Warriors
    1995 - Denis Betts, Wigan
    1994 - Jonathan Davies, Warrington
    1993 - Andy Platt, Wigan
    1992 - Dean Bell, Wigan
    1991 - Garry Schofield, Leeds
    1990 - Shaun Edwards, Wigan
    1989 - Ellery Hanley, Wigan
    1988 - Martin Offiah, Widnes
    1987 - Ellery Hanley, Wigan
    1986 - Gavin Miller, Hull Kingston Rovers
    1985 - Ellery Hanley, Bradford Northern
    1984 - Joe Lydon, Widnes
    1983 - Allan Agar, Featherstone Rovers
    1982 - Mick Morgan, Carlisle
    1981 - Ken Kelly, Warrington
    1980 - George Fairburn, Wigan
    1979 - Doug Laughton, Widnes
    1978 - George Nicholls, St Helens
    1977 - David Ward, Leeds
    7 out of the last 14 - not bad. But we must be due another one; Any guesses who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathon1964 View Post
    1988 when playing for Widnes


    2014 Darryl Clark Castleford
    2013 - Danny Brough, Huddersfield Giants
    2012 - Sam Tomkins, Wigan Warriors
    2011 - Rangi Chase, Castleford Tigers
    2010 - Pat Richards, Wigan Warriors
    2009 - Brett Hodgson, Huddersfield Giants
    2008 - James Graham, St Helens
    2007 - James Roby, St Helens
    2006 - Paul Wellens, St Helens
    2005 - Jamie Lyon, St Helens
    2004 - Andrew Farrell, Wigan Warriors
    2003 - Jamie Peacock, Bradford Bulls
    2002 - Paul Sculthorpe, St Helens
    2001 - Paul Sculthorpe, St Helens
    2000 - Sean Long, St Helens
    1999 - Adrian Vowles, Castleford Tigers
    1998 - Iestyn Harris, Leeds Rhinos
    1997 - James Lowes, Bradford Bulls
    1996 - Andrew Farrell, Wigan Warriors
    1995 - Denis Betts, Wigan
    1994 - Jonathan Davies, Warrington
    1993 - Andy Platt, Wigan
    1992 - Dean Bell, Wigan
    1991 - Garry Schofield, Leeds
    1990 - Shaun Edwards, Wigan
    1989 - Ellery Hanley, Wigan
    1988 - Martin Offiah, Widnes
    1987 - Ellery Hanley, Wigan
    1986 - Gavin Miller, Hull Kingston Rovers
    1985 - Ellery Hanley, Bradford Northern
    1984 - Joe Lydon, Widnes
    1983 - Allan Agar, Featherstone Rovers
    1982 - Mick Morgan, Carlisle
    1981 - Ken Kelly, Warrington
    1980 - George Fairburn, Wigan
    1979 - Doug Laughton, Widnes
    1978 - George Nicholls, St Helens
    1977 - David Ward, Leeds
    Wow, look at that list in the 2000's. Think I forget how good our sides of the 2000's were. We really should have won more than 3 championships in that decade.

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    offiah was a one trick pony, he scored most of his trys from kicks into open space. fast yes, but thats all he had.what the guy knows about rugby is minuscule

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    Quote Originally Posted by actonsaint View Post
    offiah was a one trick pony, he scored most of his trys from kicks into open space. fast yes, but thats all he had
    Absolute tosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actonsaint View Post
    offiah was a one trick pony, he scored most of his trys from kicks into open space. fast yes, but thats all he had.what the guy knows about rugby is minuscule
    500 trys. That's one hell of a trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonny nick View Post
    500 trys. That's one hell of a trick.
    Good scoring record,but a pundit?....get real. He is full of his own self importance and steeped in the Wigan back catalogue that the media insist on wheeling out to provide an, "impartial", view of the game.
    “It's been 31 years, since 1974, we last won a major (trophy and) Andrew Johns and Natty (Nathan Wood), our two oldest players were born in 1974 so it's a little bit spooky,”

    There is a common trait in teams at this point in the season that they seem to sit back and wait for somebody to win the game for them. And we had too many of our players waiting for someone to win the game.”

    "interfacing at the ruck"

    "winning the go-forward"

    "i thought we won the collision"

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    Offiah was a genuinely great player when the word GREAT is overused. Simple proof was that the great Aussie teams of the era feared him.

    But what he does show is that great players often make crap pundits. As to whether Saints won due to Flowers send off is totally irrelevant. The scoreboard gives the result and it does not carry artistic impression marks. In 10 years time when the result is viewed historically, there will not be an asterisk at the side of it saying that BF was sent off!

    Further, how many teams in the past have risen to the task when a man down - I cite Bobby G sent off at Knowsley Road in the Challenge Cup poss 96/97. Wonder who that was against?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Cullen's Mantra View Post
    Good scoring record,but a pundit?....get real. He is full of his own self importance.
    Isn't that pre-requisite number one for becoming a pundit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Cullen's Mantra View Post
    Good scoring record,but a pundit?....get real. He is full of his own self importance and steeped in the Wigan back catalogue that the media insist on wheeling out to provide an, "impartial", view of the game.
    I don't think anyone is in disagreement on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actonsaint View Post
    offiah was a one trick pony, he scored most of his trys from kicks into open space. fast yes, but thats all he had.what the guy knows about rugby is minuscule
    I have been a Saints fan for nearly 30 years and I've never been as terrified of what an opposition player could do to us as much as I was of Offiah back in the day. You look back at some of the tries he scored and some of them were incredible. The best out and out attacking winger I have seen in the flesh I reckon. When people say that he was just about speed it makes me laugh, because his footwork and his ability to run perfect angles was immense. I don't care about what he thinks about us or the game nowadays though.

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