Stadium Watch 8

[RedVee Admin]

Crosby recorded a wind speed of 70mph yesterday and according to the Beauford Wind Scale Huricane winds are above 64 knots or 73 mph, so while technically you are correct you are also (like me) pedantic. Anyway there is a very high probablity that gusts could have exceeded 64 knots

Two points:

Crosby is on the coast and therefore exposed to strong winds.

Why didn't anything else near LP have any damage?

[RedVee Admin]

You agree that 'someone' is at fault (but it's not God), so surely that would be the construction team...wouldn't it? In that case, why have you banned someone for saying as much but actually mentioning the company name? He/she was in no way rude, offensive etc, but you seem to have taken a 'high ground' attitude to a few statements here. Just my opinion....allegedly.

Re-read the posts. The person said "defo used incorrect materials" on the basis of what could be seen in a hazy photograph. I asked the person to withdraw that and they effectively told me to sod off. So I said bye bye.

[forward ref]

Warrington have just issued a statement that it can now go ahead and complete their programme of corner enclosure as a consignment of roofing has just unexpectantly blown-in.

[Sausalito]

Two points:

Crosby is on the coast and therefore exposed to strong winds.

Why didn't anything else near LP have any damage?

It's all to do with the shape, the Westerly Gale force winds blow through the open ended stadium (no cladding) until they reach the Eastern end (cladded)find no way out, causes an upward draught the roof comes off. (ACT OF GOD)...............all to do with THE CLADDING lol Q.E.D.

[johnnyl]

You can't half tell this site is sponsered by Hattons Solicitors

Not really, its because I know what Im on about. In fact Im sat looking out of a window right now at some fitters piecing together some pipework 30 or 40 ft up in the air for a plant Im in charge of. Hasnt blown down yet though because Im not a kn0bhead.

[Agent Mulder]

We went to Tesco at about half nine this morning and there were workmen on the roof of the stadium. They may just be checking the amount of damage or the repair could be underway already.

[Geoggy]

might have to perforate the cladding behind KC then?

[RedVee Admin]

It's all to do with the shape, the Westerly Gale force winds blow through the open ended stadium (no cladding) until they reach the Eastern end (cladded)find no way out, causes an upward draught the roof comes off. (ACT OF GOD)...............all to do with THE CLADDING lol Q.E.D.

Think you need a map, a compass and a visit to an optician...

[Gruntfuttock]

might have to perforate the cladding behind KC then?

You cant there are rooms behind there

[saintstreble]

Its just the sliding roof that has come away a bit.

I wonder if those blokes that live up the Link Way in their caravans have offered to come round and fix it yet? Maybe could Tarmac the drive while they are there?

[Rogues Gallery]

might have to perforate the cladding behind KC then?

Just make the statue lifesize. That should give enough protection for the whole stadium.

[stoneislander]

Just make the statue lifesize. That should give enough protection for the whole stadium.

or alternatively just use sam tomkins head .....it seems to big enough !

[superarch]

In that case, which daft bugger decided that the wind never blows round here except once every 80 years?

The cladding subcontractor would be responsible for the design parameters and to British Standards laid down

[SaintPeter]

Crosby recorded a wind speed of 70mph yesterday and according to the Beauford Wind Scale Huricane winds are above 64 knots or 73 mph, so while technically you are correct you are also (like me) pedantic. Anyway there is a very high probablity that gusts could have exceeded 64 knots

Hurricane force winds are the constant speed not the gusts. Constant speeds can do more damage than gusts. Also where certain buildings are can have different wind speeds. I live in clock and we had speeds in excess of 80mph where as over the Mersey in Runcorn recorded less than half of that. Tesco might have received no damage as there roof line isn't exposed like the stadium is.

[iwonthebomb]

http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1529

Sounds promising - shop re-opens tomorrow and repairs to ensure that everything goes on as planned!

[Jase]

I bloody hope so.... not so keen to sit where the hole first opened tho....

[lindylou_2006]

Well this thread seems to have gone in a direction it didn't really need to!

The wind has blown the roof off, Barr need to fix it - thats it really isn't it?

That really was the point I was trying to make.

[somerset-saint]

ITs actually really complicated. The material used is corrugated, meaning it's stronger. But if there is a dent or buckle that got there by falling debris or by someone walking on it, makes it weaker and easy to bend up. It's also probs not helping that, that corner is slightly open compared to the other sides. Also like I mentioned before there is no soffits. If there were soffits there would be no overhang under the gutters on the roof, also them rats wouldn't keep shiting all Over our new ground.

has the delay in fitting out the cladding caused some of the damage, I am not an expert in structural engineering, but I am in aerodynamics and airflow, and with the amount of open space under the roof due to no cladding there was nothing to slow the air flow down... wind only flows where it can flow.... If even 2 sides where fully complete it would probably create a higher pressure point inside the stadium and the wind would flow over the roof...

Its a bit like when you open your car window on the motorway, its a bit windy but no problem until somebody sat in the back opens their window and causes strong airflow to batter the inside of the car....

and for the record I was not one of the 'burning torch' wielding mob going on about the cladding whilst the stadium was being built lol.....

[lindylou_2006]

Force 12 or above?

I must have missed them, along with the rest of St Helens.

Don't criticise people as spouting tripe then do it yourself.

According to the Telegraph yes we did.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/we...r-Britain.html

If you read the article it states Britain battered by hurricane force winds.The point I was making was Big winds (is that ok or do I need to consult the wind terminology guide book for correct definition) often cause damage , so people needed to calm down and wait for it to be fixed not get hysterical about things.

Didnt know admin would jump down my throat for getting wind speed wrong

[oldshep1960]

The cladding subcontractor would be responsible for the design parameters and to British Standards laid down

Ahhhh but who is responsible for turning 'Billy' wind on and off then? Hahaha I can't believe i just wrote that! must be me age.

[oldshep1960]

has the delay in fitting out the cladding caused some of the damage, I am not an expert in structural engineering, but I am in aerodynamics and airflow, and with the amount of open space under the roof due to no cladding there was nothing to slow the air flow down... wind only flows where it can flow.... If even 2 sides where fully complete it would probably create a higher pressure point inside the stadium and the wind would flow over the roof...

Its a bit like when you open your car window on the motorway, its a bit windy but no problem until somebody sat in the back opens their window and causes strong airflow to batter the inside of the car.....

God Somerset,,,, youre wasted on this site you are! should have Paxmans job hahaha

[Sausalito]

It's windy again tonight, keeping my fingers crossed.

[Greg]

It's windy again tonight, keeping my fingers crossed.

Aye lets hope that Gaffa tape holds things in place till the wind dies down!

[paulscnthorpe]

Don't live too far from the stadium and it seems a lot worse tonight