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    would surely be a better centre than gilmour
    i don't get why everyone is saying that gilmour is centre next season

    flannery has excellent hands and defence
    he would just be a better centre
    for me it's flannery or eastmond at centre
    preferably flannery

    sticking wellens at loose and putting eastmond at fullback would be a good shout to.

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    Flannery needs to pull his finger out and live up to
    the SofO billing as a backrower before any thoughts of
    centre.

    His first half season was down to injury, the last full season
    was one of fits and starts.

    Wellens to LF is the right move if one season too late.

    A pacey winger or centre is a must. Buy one or try the best
    junior. That is the choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reliable sauce View Post
    would surely be a better centre than gilmour
    i don't get why everyone is saying that gilmour is centre next season

    flannery has excellent hands and defence
    he would just be a better centre
    for me it's flannery or eastmond at centre
    preferably flannery

    sticking wellens at loose and putting eastmond at fullback would be a good shout to.
    i dont rate Flannery,i dont think he brings anything special to the team.

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    Wheeler is the Centre for Next Season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doogal View Post
    Wheeler is the Centre for Next Season.
    Opinion or source?

    regarding Flannery, I rate him very highly. His defence is magnificent and his support and link up play, particularly with Flick is brilliant. I think we will genuinely see the best of him this year. He's got a season and a half under his belt since his devastating leg-break and I think he will get back to his best.

    Ultimately though, those unfashionable players like Flanno, possibly Cloughy and Hargreaves may be on the receiving end of some considerable stick this season as its going to be a tough year and I don't expect us to win anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManchesterSaint View Post
    Opinion or source?
    Our Chief Exec told me himself that Gary Wheeler is centre next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammsteinbloke View Post
    Our Chief Exec told me himself that Gary Wheeler is centre next year.
    Excellent, suits me down to the ground if its true. I've heard nothing but good reports. I only asked because people often make these statements without saying whether its an opinion or a fact.

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    its good to hear some reliable info
    however
    i feel that wing will just be targeted ALL the time
    wheeler isn't a big guy at all
    if im right isn't he like sean longs height?
    it would be a good ting to attack down though
    im not sure what wheeler's defensive capabilities are?

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    Flannery is a decent solid player for me but I think we should keep him in the back row. Not that I am saying I have the answer for our left centre problems but would be happy to see Wheeler or another youngster given a go.

    I dont want to rake up old ground surrounding Englands poor showing in the world cup but I believe that players such as Flannery are the reason the development of young players across super league has been stunted. Yes he is a decent player but in his performances for Saints has he really added anything more than Paul Clough who is a young English forward making his way in the game? For me he hasnt added anything substancially better than what Mike Bennett offered us with limited skills of taking the ball in and being solid in defence.

    For the years he remains with Saints as long as he gives us 100% then he will continue to get my support and I hope he has a fantastic 2009!

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    Flannery has never shown that he will be any better than Bennett was for us, and that for me shows him to be a waste of a quota spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billinge Lump View Post
    Flannery has never shown that he will be any better than Bennett was for us, and that for me shows him to be a waste of a quota spot.
    if he doesn't shine this season
    i couldn't agree with you more

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    Billinge Lump he is a waste of a quota spot in that sense but as you are allowed to have so many Aus/NZ/Kolpack it gets lost!

    There will always be room in Super League for players such as Lyon / Barrett / King etc who bring expectation and publicity to clubs and the game as a whole but it is the average players who are not really any better than our own that is hurting SL in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammsteinbloke View Post
    Our Chief Exec told me himself that Gary Wheeler is centre next year.
    Is our chief exec getting abit Roman Abromovich? The coach picks the team and not the chief exec.

    I can'tr imagine that after a matter of a week to two weeks Potter has already selected his starting line up.


    Hence i assume all "knowledge" from any sources is bullcrap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reliable sauce View Post
    would surely be a better centre than gilmour
    i don't get why everyone is saying that gilmour is centre next season

    flannery has excellent hands and defence
    he would just be a better centre
    for me it's flannery or eastmond at centre
    preferably flannery

    sticking wellens at loose and putting eastmond at fullback would be a good shout to.

    Flannery was utterly hopeless in a positional sense when he was played at centre last season.

    At least Lee Gilmour (bar one shocker at Huddersfield) has shown he is more than competent at centre. In fact some of his more stand out games in the past for Saints have been at centre.

    Personally I'd rather have none of them at centre but Gimour is ten times more suited to the role than either Flannery or Eastmond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST_CONROY View Post
    Is our chief exec getting abit Roman Abromovich? The coach picks the team and not the chief exec.

    I can'tr imagine that after a matter of a week to two weeks Potter has already selected his starting line up.


    Hence i assume all "knowledge" from any sources is bullcrap.
    Got to agree with this.

    There is absolutely no way on God's earth that our new coach has already decided that our Reserves stand off is suddenly going to be thrust into a top Super League side at centre. I don't care what TC says. He has nothing to do with team selection.
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    if he produces some good form which i am certain he will
    i would stick him at centre this season.

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    I reckon Flanno is a good second row but not a centre.He is well worth his place in the squad for me.
    If we put a youngster in the team we must keep him in and support him.I don't reckon it will do him any good to come in and get the Meli treatment like some players have.He will make mistakes so he will need support and not slagging off imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reliable sauce View Post

    flannery has excellent hands
    Quote Originally Posted by ManchesterSaint View Post
    I rate him very highly.

    magnificent

    brilliant. .
    These kind of descriptions do not belong alongside the name Flannery. Simple as.

    He's decent at best, a gross waste of a quota spot, wont be cheap and offers nothing more than Clough, Bennett, Gilmour, wilkin etc...

    This is simply a case of the The Emperor's New Clothes with people creating imaginary great things about Flannery that us mere plebs are too stupid to see due to our lack of knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Don View Post
    I reckon Flanno is a good second row but not a centre.He is well worth his place in the squad for me.
    If we put a youngster in the team we must keep him in and support him.I don't reckon it will do him any good to come in and get the Meli treatment like some players have.He will make mistakes so he will need support and not slagging off imo.
    it will be gilmour, trust me
    i dont agree but thats who it will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greatest View Post
    These kind of descriptions do not belong alongside the name Flannery. Simple as.

    He's decent at best, a gross waste of a quota spot, wont be cheap and offers nothing more than Clough, Bennett, Gilmour, wilkin etc...

    This is simply a case of the The Emperor's New Clothes with people creating imaginary great things about Flannery that us mere plebs are too stupid to see due to our lack of knowledge.

    He's better than Clough, Bennett and Wilkin.

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    he's not better than clough bennett or wilkin.

    he is a waste of quota a club like us should be attracting a beeter calibre of auz/nz player on our quota.

    tbh all of DA's quota signings are questionable at best.

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    I think he is a solid if not spectacular player who tackles well and invariably plays the full 80 mins.

    However, I think some of his better form last season including a few tries was the link between him and Gidley down the right hand side.

    Therefore, if people are looking at playing him at centre, then it obviously will be on the other side and the link with Gidley will be lost. He is also definitely not a centre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wabo View Post
    he's not better than clough bennett or wilkin.

    he is a waste of quota a club like us should be attracting a beeter calibre of auz/nz player on our quota.

    tbh all of DA's quota signings are questionable at best.
    Personally i don't think Clough will make it, Bennett's retired and Wilkin is a show pony. He must be very poor if he's not better than them. There has to be a grafter in a team, everyone can't be a star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amywinehouse View Post
    Personally i don't think Clough will make it, Bennett's retired and Wilkin is a show pony. He must be very poor if he's not better than them. There has to be a grafter in a team, everyone can't be a star.
    I have done a qucik comparason of Clough against what the media would have us believe is the premier second rower in the competition.

    http://www.superleague.co.uk/statist...es&season=2008

    I would suggest Cloughies are stats with the exception of offloads is pretty comparible with soon to be West Tigers player? I would say he's already made it and is improving season on season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wellensisno1 View Post
    I have done a qucik comparason of Clough against what the media would have us believe is the premier second rower in the competition.

    http://www.superleague.co.uk/statist...es&season=2008

    I would suggest Cloughies are stats with the exception of offloads is pretty comparible with soon to be West Tigers player? I would say he's already made it and is improving season on season?
    compare him to Flannery, and it is no contest.

    http://www.superleague.co.uk/statist...es&season=2008

    Clough does more work, makes more metres, more tackles and less missed tackles.

    compared to Gilmour, Clough again is the superior player. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statist...es&season=2008

    compared to Wilkin, http://www.superleague.co.uk/statist...es&season=2008, his stats are slightly worse - but considering Wilkin is an international he doesnt compare badly.
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