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The reputation of Wire fans grows ...
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Any incident at Wembley the press will be all over it!!
From Wigan starting the season losing points before having the restored, drink driving, drugs test failure and the whole hand shake contract thing.
Warrington have now taken the batton for making the sport's headlines over the past few weeks. Notice that their Wolf has been unseen during this time, rather than the embarassing plane flying stunt.
PR for the sport is awful, with own goal after own goal for the sport, usually from the clubs .
Whilst this incident, does make the sport and the professionals involved look more progressive, the fact that it occurred is the issue.
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This also demonstrates what pressures referees are under. We need refs just as much as we need players, coaches, owners, fans etc. Most of us moan and groan about them and they will make mistakes but as fans we need to keep it all in perspective and try to get off their backs.
A death threat is utterly ridiculous.
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Credit to Hicks for agreeing to meet this buffoon. If more "keyboard warriors" were called to account, I'm sure there'd be less of 'em!
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There have been occasions on the FB group where so called Saints fans say we "should shoot Wigan scum". When challenged, they claim it's just banter. This thing from the Warrington fan does seem a lot worse, though
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Originally Posted by
Suttoner
This also demonstrates what pressures referees are under. We need refs just as much as we need players, coaches, owners, fans etc. Most of us moan and groan about them and they will make mistakes but as fans we need to keep it all in perspective and try to get off their backs.
I agree...
But the RFL do sweet fanny all about players abusing refs in game - getting in their faces, questioning every decision against them, trying to coerce the ref to award decisions their way, etc.
We even had that freak Hill swearing at the ref as the culmination of a game where he'd been chirping in his ear all through, and the RFL - with the ideal opportunity to make a stand in the aftermath of the fighting debacle - yet totally ignored it.
In contrast, we've had a player sin binned for not making eye contact with the ref when he's getting a talking to. And the other season Percival copping a ban for accidentally slicing a kick of the ball into the ref after conceding a try.
It's an inconsistent joke.
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Originally Posted by
Webbo Again
I agree...
But the RFL do sweet fanny all about players abusing refs in game - getting in their faces, questioning every decision against them, trying to coerce the ref to award decisions their way, etc.
We even had that freak Hill swearing at the ref as the culmination of a game where he'd been chirping in his ear all through, and the RFL - with the ideal opportunity to make a stand in the aftermath of the fighting debacle - yet totally ignored it.
In contrast, we've had a player sin binned for not making eye contact with the ref when he's getting a talking to. And the other season Percival copping a ban for accidentally slicing a kick of the ball into the ref after conceding a try.
It's an inconsistent joke.
Nailed it.
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Originally Posted by
Webbo Again
I agree...
But the RFL do sweet fanny all about players abusing refs in game - getting in their faces, questioning every decision against them, trying to coerce the ref to award decisions their way, etc.
We even had that freak Hill swearing at the ref as the culmination of a game where he'd been chirping in his ear all through, and the RFL - with the ideal opportunity to make a stand in the aftermath of the fighting debacle - yet totally ignored it.
In contrast, we've had a player sin binned for not making eye contact with the ref when he's getting a talking to. And the other season Percival copping a ban for accidentally slicing a kick of the ball into the ref after conceding a try.
It's an inconsistent joke.
It’s nit inconsistent, Saints consistently get pinged for trivial offences, whereas, Wire and Pie, players consistently get let off for far worse.
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Originally Posted by
Webbo Again
I agree...
But the RFL do sweet fanny all about players abusing refs in game - getting in their faces, questioning every decision against them, trying to coerce the ref to award decisions their way, etc.
We even had that freak Hill swearing at the ref as the culmination of a game where he'd been chirping in his ear all through, and the RFL - with the ideal opportunity to make a stand in the aftermath of the fighting debacle - yet totally ignored it.
In contrast, we've had a player sin binned for not making eye contact with the ref when he's getting a talking to. And the other season Percival copping a ban for accidentally slicing a kick of the ball into the ref after conceding a try.
It's an inconsistent joke.
I agree. Players should be respectful. A captain asking for clarification of a decision and then accepting it is OK. Nagging away at the ref isn’t and swearing at a ref certainly isn’t. Referees should be encouraged to march teams back 10 metres where there is dissent and the disciplinary should support refs with bans where there is abuse or extreme cases of dissent. I keep bashing on about it but I would prefer refs not to use player’s first names.
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I'm not sure I could have done what Hicks did without trying to rip the little scrotes throat out so huge credit to him.
I have to agree with others here, people like Hill need to be held to account for their actions. The way he's constantly undermining the officials is bordering on abuse of referees and is empowering these morons
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Bostik Bailey
It’s nit inconsistent, Saints consistently get pinged for trivial offences, whereas, Wire and Pie, players consistently get let off for far worse.
Just read on Twitter a Wigan fan saying the same about us and wire
Then another from Salford saying they are picked on for being a small club
A wakefield fan complaining that saints and Leeds get everything
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Buddy
I'm not sure I could have done what Hicks did without trying to rip the little scrotes throat out so huge credit to him.
I have to agree with others here, people like Hill need to be held to account for their actions. The way he's constantly undermining the officials is bordering on abuse of referees and is empowering these morons
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Agreed, abuse is becoming normalised and peop,e make continual attempts to justify with comments like the refs pick us for things but ignore the other teams
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No ref = no game
Even the most empty-headed person can surely understand that......
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Originally Posted by
maghullsaint
There have been occasions on the FB group where so called Saints fans say we "should shoot Wigan scum". When challenged, they claim it's just banter. This thing from the Warrington fan does seem a lot worse, though
It's a song, singing something at rival fans isn't making a death threat. I'm not sure why that needs explaining.
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RJM25R
No ref = no game
Even the most empty-headed person can surely understand that......
My only thought on the point. I have done the course for refereeing and the conduct of players makes it twice as hard. If some of the players bothered their backsides to learn the rules it would help.
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Originally Posted by
Webbo Again
I agree...
But the RFL do sweet fanny all about players abusing refs in game - getting in their faces, questioning every decision against them, trying to coerce the ref to award decisions their way, etc.
We even had that freak Hill swearing at the ref as the culmination of a game where he'd been chirping in his ear all through, and the RFL - with the ideal opportunity to make a stand in the aftermath of the fighting debacle - yet totally ignored it.
In contrast, we've had a player sin binned for not making eye contact with the ref when he's getting a talking to. And the other season Percival copping a ban for accidentally slicing a kick of the ball into the ref after conceding a try.
It's an inconsistent joke.
Exactly
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Angry Dave
It's a song, singing something at rival fans isn't making a death threat. I'm not sure why that needs explaining.
Why ? Most artists and critics say that words put to song are more powerful.
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Mancunian Saint
Just a thought, i know its too late for the cc final as most fans like myself already have their tickets but could the recent unrest involving wire fans put fans off attending the grand final in October should saints and Warrington meet at old Trafford?
My 5 year old son's been coming with me this season, but after recent weeks I've decided against taking him to the final. Just not worth the risk. It certainly doesn't feel like a family game at the moment. Saints, wire and Widnes fans + alcohol + all day drinking = recipe for trouble.
I've had/seen trouble before at the likes of Hull and KR but Wire seem to think they're the Millwall of rugby with their Warrington Casual sh##e. Though its few and far between, it's getting more frequent lately.
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Tallaght Tiger
Why ? Most artists and critics say that words put to song are more powerful.
The national anthem itself talks about scattering enemies, making them fall, confounding their politics and crushing rebellious Scots.
Then again, it also talks about god like it exists. So it's clearly not meant to be taken seriously.
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Tallaght Tiger
Why ? Most artists and critics say that words put to song are more powerful.
Because we're not artists, were singing a song to the fans and players of our biggest rivals, who no doubt do the same to us. What the •••• is wrong with some people? Just take it for what it is, not everything has a deeper meaning or hidden agenda.
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Originally Posted by
Angry Dave
Because we're not artists, were singing a song to the fans and players of our biggest rivals, who no doubt do the same to us. What the •••• is wrong with some people? Just take it for what it is, not everything has a deeper meaning or hidden agenda.
Nothing wrong with me that I know, AD. Singing that Wigan scum should be shot, don`t think you have to look too deep in that, it is a death threat. I dont`t take too much notice but certain people attach feeling to these songs.
Some songs have deep meaning to certain people, their words underpinning an emotion and time, these people even use a song title as their avatar on internet forums.:wink:
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Wire have no history , the present is shite, their future is bleak.
With no Identity for those poor fans the crisis resorts to fans making there own identity- The biggest Knobs in town !
Yes like Millwall fans , shit team, brain dead folk nothing down for em expect for behaving like cocks! Problem is for Warrington, cant even do that right!