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Eddie Hemmings' Wig
24th October 2007, 13:19
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7059459.stm

Leneghan the new chairman with Joe Lydon as the new Chief Executive.

UhAhGeorgie Mann
24th October 2007, 14:07
Hmm. I see they've chosen to appoint a shrewd well known business man as their chief exec.

WIGANHATER
24th October 2007, 14:24
Opting to stay at the JJB Stadium till 2050. Gutted.

Dux
24th October 2007, 14:33
Getting rid of Maurice and Whelan could be a real turning point for Wigan I reckon. Lindsay always seemed to be far too deeply involved in matters that are for coaches to think about. If their new managament team chill out and let Noble do his job then I could see them being regularly competitive again.

Incidentally, just how rich is this guy? Is he proper rolling in it like Whelan, or are we talking more unspectacularly rich?

Agent Mulder
24th October 2007, 15:03
Getting rid of Maurice and Whelan could be a real turning point for Wigan I reckon. Lindsay always seemed to be far too deeply involved in matters that are for coaches to think about. If their new managament team chill out and let Noble do his job then I could see them being regularly competitive again.

Incidentally, just how rich is this guy? Is he proper rolling in it like Whelan, or are we talking more unspectacularly rich?



Not sure just how rich he is but I do know that his wife is apparently a massive Saints fanatic. lol I wonder if their household will be anything like the Hetheringtons. :eek: lol

Scouse Don
24th October 2007, 15:06
Is this like the Fall Of the Berlin Wall..............What happens if the new owners of the Goons turn out to be nice and an entente cordial breaks out......Will we have to be nice to the Gooners ?
We had a focus with Uncle Maurice.......what happens if they start to say nice things and compliment and stuff like that.........going to need that shrink again !
PS Just back from my jollies in Rome -spoke ti Il Papa- The Saints are'nt signing anyone this year-he shares my view that were still the best when all fit and on a level playing field!!!!!!!1

Agent Mulder
24th October 2007, 15:10
Is this like the Fall Of the Berlin Wall..............What happens if the new owners of the Goons turn out to be nice and an entente cordial breaks out......Will we have to be nice to the Gooners ?
We had a focus with Uncle Maurice.......what happens if they start to say nice things and compliment and stuff like that.........going to need that shrink again !
PS Just back from my jollies in Rome -spoke ti Il Papa- The Saints are'nt signing anyone this year-he shares my view that were still the best when all fit and on a level playing field!!!!!!!1


We'll not be winning at Bradford then.;) lol

Sadfish
24th October 2007, 15:17
I think Ian Lenegan and Eamonn are quite good friends.

I'm certainly happier now the whelan and lyndsay are out of the game, anyone is better than those 2 clowns.

The Chair Maker
24th October 2007, 15:23
From a Saints perspective i find this worrying as i think Wigan will now be run in a far more professional manner.

From a RL perspective I think its good news

philkicks
24th October 2007, 16:16
Mr Lenaghan spoke very well and at length about his plans both short term and long term for Wigan- fair to say he's the decision maker full stop - but evolution not revolution .

In terms of 2008 he said more or less same squad as 2007

Blobbynator
24th October 2007, 16:18
From a Saints perspective i find this worrying as i think Wigan will now be run in a far more professional manner.

From a RL perspective I think its good news

Agreed on both counts. From a Saints POV, I'm gutted Whelan and Lindsay have gone as they've been a hindrance for Wigan for several years now.

Billinge Lump
24th October 2007, 17:01
Opting to stay at the JJB Stadium till 2050. Gutted.

What happened to the 99 yr lease one wonders.

Kev
24th October 2007, 18:02
Opting to stay at the JJB Stadium till 2050. Gutted.
Why are you Gutted?

Syd
24th October 2007, 18:04
Not sure just how rich he is but I do know that his wife is apparently a massive Saints fanatic. lol I wonder if their household will be anything like the Hetheringtons. :eek: lol

Poor woman if she looks like Mrs Heth, boy oh boy thats one seriously ugly lady. I mean Gary isnt that bad looking, but the mrs, holy cow, she looks liek she went to slow school. God bless her.

liverpool saint
24th October 2007, 18:04
At this price? TeleWork
Andrew Clark
Guardian

Life is looking up for Ian Lenegan, who styles himself as "a simple northern guy" but is worth £130m!! following the successful flotation of TeleWork, his business software company.

TeleWork has attracted a price tag of £262m after a placing of shares in the business was more than seven times oversubscribed.

The business specialises in communications software, providing portable personal phone numbers, advanced voice message systems and tracking employees who spend their time on the road.

A former mathematician, Mr Lenegan co-founded the company after running a business selling garages and porches. He recognised a need for decent software to co-ordinate a business, with staff working odd hours often away from the office.

The market reckons TeleWork has great potential, given the rapid trend in business towards flexible time-keeping and to employees working from home. Among its products is a system which allows employees to clock in by dialling a phone number and pressing a particular key - useful, for example, for train operators who need to ensure their drivers are in the right place at the right time.

Other TeleWork systems include a product which turns voice messages into emails, and software which helps manage rotas and schedules for personnel departments. The company has just received an order to supply £208,500 of hardware to BT Cellnet, a relationship which could prove much more lucrative in the long term.

TeleWork has a good track record - it has made profits every year since 1986, with an average growth rate of 49% annually for the last five years. The flotation has raised £17.2m, which will be used to fund acquisitions in similar types of software and to repay debt of £2.7m incurred in a recent purchase. Going public also means that staff can be given share options.

Broker Kleinwort Benson has priced the shares at 145p, and trading starts on August 3. The price represents a multiple of 60 times next year's expected earnings - which sounds steep, but is not too bad for a software firm.

TeleWorks seems a good way to buy into the race towards the virtual office. Mr Lenegan is so confident of prospects that he is buying a new car he wants to trade in his Jag for something a little more up-market.

Dux
24th October 2007, 18:30
A former mathematician, Mr Lenegan co-founded the company after running a business selling garages and porches. He recognised a need for decent software to co-ordinate a business, with staff working odd hours often away from the office.

That should come in handy for the pies, given their recent problems.

are you blind ref
24th October 2007, 18:33
That should come in handy for the pies, given their recent problems.


lol lol lol lol lol lol

R P McMurphy
24th October 2007, 18:46
Has he given up all interest in Harlequins?

if not why not?

Would that not constitute a conflict in Interests?

Supersaint
24th October 2007, 19:11
Will the saints board be allowed back in the posh bits of the JJB now? :cool:

Two Wheeled Saint
24th October 2007, 19:20
http://www.lynd-evans.com/tfr/images/Chris%20Chittell_main_pic.jpg
Eric Pollard owns Wigoon

Agent Mulder
24th October 2007, 19:31
http://www.lynd-evans.com/tfr/images/Chris%20Chittell_main_pic.jpg
Eric Pollard owns Wigoon

That's what I thought when I saw it on Granada Reports. lol

gateaux
24th October 2007, 19:37
Has he given up all interest in Harlequins?

if not why not?

Would that not constitute a conflict in Interests?
as far as I know he still has shares in them and owns the vast majority of them but he isnt having anything to do with the day to day running.

Sadfish
24th October 2007, 19:37
Has he given up all interest in Harlequins?

if not why not?

Would that not constitute a conflict in Interests?

As far as I know you can own two clubs if you want but you can't be actively running both clubs.

So you could be the owner of Harlequins, and the Chairman of Wigan no probs.

Houghwood Saint
24th October 2007, 19:45
i see the new board at Wigan have targeted the aussie centre Cooper as their first signing to play outside Barrett for next year.I met an old Wigan friend the other day and he said he thinks theyre on the way back but that Saints' time at the top is over.

Woodspeckie
24th October 2007, 21:12
Be interesting to see the reaction to this years overspending the salary cap, no Maurice to try to talk his way out of it.

Gerry Mander
24th October 2007, 22:14
Be interesting to see the reaction to this years overspending the salary cap, no Maurice to try to talk his way out of it.


Not at issue. The new regime at Wigan have a perfect position.

" We have co-operated with the auditors however what was found related to the last administration and the staff involved are no longer employed by the club etc etc"

Perfect defendable position.

Overall I think it's a good move for RL.

Harlequins have been crying out for a feeder club for years. Skolars just weren't cutting it.;)

The Chair Maker
25th October 2007, 01:03
It said on BBC that he has to get rid of Harlequins shares within 2 years.

So looks like they may be up the swanny come 2009 then.

NSL
25th October 2007, 10:27
Probably old news, but Wigan only have a budget of £140,000 remaining for next season according to a couple of articles I've seen.

So much for 5 new signings then!

Overall though, you have to say it's a good move for Wigan.

bazzo
25th October 2007, 10:27
I'm still worried that one man can be involved in 2 clubs at one time and dont tell me that a major shareholder in both clubs wont have a big say in what happens on a day to day basis at those clubs! personally i think it stinks and is open to corruption but hey its Wigan ! they do what the f*** they want
[ wigan needing 2 points and playing quins} opps 60points to 0 to the goons ?

Sadfish
25th October 2007, 10:35
How about if a man and wife where CEOs of two different SL clubs would that be ok??

I'd also like to point out that i'm a shareholder of more than 1 club, aklbeit 1 is a SL and one NL, but you know they could easily end up in the same league one day, how does that work out?

Eddie Hemmings' Wig
25th October 2007, 10:42
....and he's already whinging about the salary cap. Its funny how I didnt notice him mention it when he was only concerned about Quins:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/rugbyleague/story/0,,2198491,00.html

Billinge Lump
25th October 2007, 10:57
Whelan extended the lease for the JJB to 2050?

I wonder when it was originally due to run out.

Blobbynator
25th October 2007, 13:33
....and he's already whinging about the salary cap. Its funny how I didnt notice him mention it when he was only concerned about Quins:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/rugbyleague/story/0,,2198491,00.html

Getting their excuses in nice and early, I see. Does that take into account the likes of Vaeliki and Fletcher who are leaving? If so, they really are buggered.

Brimah Kebbie
25th October 2007, 13:45
How about if a man and wife where CEOs of two different SL clubs would that be ok??

I'd also like to point out that i'm a shareholder of more than 1 club, aklbeit 1 is a SL and one NL, but you know they could easily end up in the same league one day, how does that work out?

I hardly think you're going to be the major shareholder of thse two clubs and therefore won't have a controlling influence, unless your incredibly more wealthy than I ever gave you credit for. :???:

Sadfish
25th October 2007, 13:56
How about if a man and wife where CEOs of two different SL clubs would that be ok??

I'd also like to point out that i'm a shareholder of more than 1 club, aklbeit 1 is a SL and one NL, but you know they could easily end up in the same league one day, how does that work out?

I hardly think you're going to be the major shareholder of thse two clubs and therefore won't have a controlling influence, unless your incredibly more wealthy than I ever gave you credit for. :???:

doesn't really matter, people have shares in many companies who compete to all sorts of levels.

WIGANHATER
25th October 2007, 14:16
Why are you Gutted?

Because I would have preferred for them to be kicked out and have to play at St Judes playing fields.

The Chair Maker
25th October 2007, 20:18
Whelan extended the lease for the JJB to 2050?

I wonder when it was originally due to run out.

Shows that the 99 year lease was a bit of spin from pies.

Lenaghan also wouldnt buy the club unless he got some tangible assets eg Orrels training ground. Without which Wigan are nothing more than a glorified pub team.

It will be interesting to see how Wigan perform in an open market now their business isnt in the tangled web of whelco companies where each mutually scratched the back of others, by keaping cashflow within the businesses.
Wigan will have to upgrade their marketing/commercial departments, especially re merchandise and sponsorship

Saints-Crusaders
25th October 2007, 20:55
How about if a man and wife where CEOs of two different SL clubs would that be ok??



Well the Hetheringtons were/are* *(delete where applicable) doing that for a number of years............ Gary @ The Rhinos and Kath @ Hull

Cedarman
26th October 2007, 11:30
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44196000/jpg/_44196314_lenagan203pa.jpg http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/content/images/2005/10/19/chris_caisley_150_150x180.jpg


.................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm something fishy here!!! :eek:

Sadfish
26th October 2007, 11:46
Well the Hetheringtons were/are* *(delete where applicable) doing that for a number of years............ Gary @ The Rhinos and Kath @ Hull

yes, thast what I was saying :) :???::???:

Sadfish
26th October 2007, 11:46
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44196000/jpg/_44196314_lenagan203pa.jpg http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/content/images/2005/10/19/chris_caisley_150_150x180.jpg


.................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm something fishy here!!! :eek:
Nowt to do with me this time!

Legolas
28th October 2007, 19:36
I've read a couple of posts on here about the potential conflicts of interest and just to put my two penneth in, its yet another Wigan dealing that stinks.

No disrespect intended to Mr Lenaghan, but he said that he would sell his stake in Quins "when a good buyer can be found". Thus, if this time next year they still haven't found a "good buyer" he could still own the shares at Quins. Now then, the rules might say that a person can have shares/own two clubs so long as they are not directly involved in the day to day running. As Chairman/Majority shareholder, this is almost impossible, particularly when they say "can i have £x to buy Y" or the results don't go and the manager has to go.

Also, as unlikely as it is, what happens if, next August, Wigan in 7th, need to win to get into the 6 and hey ho, they've got Quins at any point which will guarantee the 6 one way or another. IF Wigan were to beat Quins it would be sensible to imply that Mr Lenaghan MIGHT have had a word. I am not questioning his integrity, but that could be the view of the more sceptical outside world.

Wigan are incapable of doing anything straight down the line and controversy free. The RFL should insist he relinquishes his interest in one or the other before kick off in February.

parrsaint
28th October 2007, 19:50
I've read a couple of posts on here about the potential conflicts of interest and just to put my two penneth in, its yet another Wigan dealing that stinks.

No disrespect intended to Mr Lenaghan, but he said that he would sell his stake in Quins "when a good buyer can be found". Thus, if this time next year they still haven't found a "good buyer" he could still own the shares at Quins. Now then, the rules might say that a person can have shares/own two clubs so long as they are not directly involved in the day to day running. As Chairman/Majority shareholder, this is almost impossible, particularly when they say "can i have £x to buy Y" or the results don't go and the manager has to go.

Also, as unlikely as it is, what happens if, next August, Wigan in 7th, need to win to get into the 6 and hey ho, they've got Quins at any point which will guarantee the 6 one way or another. IF Wigan were to beat Quins it would be sensible to imply that Mr Lenaghan MIGHT have had a word. I am not questioning his integrity, but that could be the view of the more sceptical outside world.

Wigan are incapable of doing anything straight down the line and controversy free. The RFL should insist he relinquishes his interest in one or the other before kick off in February.

Totally agree. If the RFL doesn't order him to sell his shares in Harlequins then it will be similar to the situation with the Maxwell family in the 80's at Derby County and Oxford United with one club having a puppet chairman.

Saints-Crusaders
28th October 2007, 20:19
He's been given 2 years to sell his shares in Harlequins, but as has been stated before, he could transfer his shares to another family member and let them run the club.

Just look at the Hetherington's, a husband and wife who runs the Leeds Rhinos and Hull FC, it can be done

Legolas
28th October 2007, 20:26
He's been given 2 years to sell his shares in Harlequins, but as has been stated before, he could transfer his shares to another family member and let them run the club.

Just look at the Hetherington's, a husband and wife who runs the Leeds Rhinos and Hull FC, it can be done

Yes it can be done, and if he does that, fine. But he MUST relinquish all control and not transfer the share to his puppet.

Two years is rubbish, he should be made to do it forthwith or they both lose the games against each other with points forfeited for each. Only way to ensure transparency.

Saints-Crusaders
28th October 2007, 20:30
Two years is rubbish, he should be made to do it forthwith or they both lose the games against each other with points forfeited for each. Only way to ensure transparency.


If only it was that easy, i agree 2 years is way too long but it's harsh to expect him to be able to sell so quickly. It's like giving someone a few days to sell their house

parrsaint
28th October 2007, 20:35
If only it was that easy, i agree 2 years is way too long but it's harsh to expect him to be able to sell so quickly. It's like giving someone a few days to sell their house


Shouldn't it be in the RFL rules that he should have sold his shares in Quins before taking over at Wigan?

Saints-Crusaders
28th October 2007, 20:41
Shouldn't it be in the RFL rules that he should have sold his shares in Quins before taking over at Wigan?



You would have to take that up with the RFL, as they're the ones allowing him the 2 years.

Syd
29th October 2007, 12:14
This lady will be missed.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/sydney2002/Lindsay.jpg